Election 2012 Is Comming

BTW, I don't think you have to look very far for evidence to support your theory of corruption in government.

No, he exempted the insurance companies from making only 20% profit.

The waiver I believe you safe referring to is the requirement that insurance companies spend at least 80% of their paid premiums on health care for the insured parties. Several states have gotten them. They are granted to insurance companies that can show it would put an undue hardship on them (business friendly to the vultures) It is not a waiver of the Affordable le Health Care Act. Have you read it? It is posted on line.

1- Nevada is not exempt from the plan.
2- Some union contracts that will be in effect for as long as 5 years do not have to comply until the new contract because they negotiated a binding contract with the members that the government cannot and should not be able to cancel.

ononewheel wrote: I bet your code comes back soon, even if you tighten your cap properly.

Nope, will not come back anytime soon.
Code P0440 is commonly referred to as the loose or bad gas cap code.
1st thing on the list is to check the gas cap and its gasket.

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As I said earlier mine was loose, it was just sitting on the filler and
not turned for at least 3 clicks as most gas caps have printed on them.
Yes, I know other issues can cause this code.

1st time I heard of the P0440 code was from a friend that was selling his almost new truck. Friend he knew wanted to test drive it so Jim did not go with them. When they came back, they did not purchase.

Jim took truck to store and Light came on. He took it to Ford to have it
checked. They charged him $200+ to tighten his gas cap.
Jim called the friend that test drove it and they had stopped and put gas in it.
Test drive cost him $200. I try to remember these things.

quite a stretch ^^^

used to be free, now it's not = screwed?

ononewheel wrote: 21 Pages !!!!!! So, who is going to get the nomination? I still say it's going to be Romney. Sorry, Ski, Dave and all the rest. Is Mormonism like Christian?

Too Soon to tell, but I do think it is about time for a few to drop off the bottom who are wasting our time at the debates.

21 Pages !!!!!!


So, who is going to get the nomination?





















I still say it's going to be Romney.


Sorry, Ski, Dave and all the rest.
Is Mormonism like Christian?

Critter, Iknow you're not a moron and I am not arguing politics with your gas cap problem. I was just talking auto repair. The OBD II system is a very good system. prior to its implementation everyone in an area that requires testing had to bring their car in and run it on a dyno with a probe up its tailpipe to see if it met emission standards. if you remember they also did a gas cap vacuum test at the same time. The dyno tests were expensive to conduct for the EPA (government) in the testing jurisdiction, but also only provided a snapshot of the car at the time it was being tested. The OBD II system constantly monitors the engine and only requires that the system be plugged in at the test lane to complete the test. The whole procedure takes only a few minutes, saves government money, and saves gas that was used to run the car for about 5 minutes on a dyno. I believe one only needs to look at the HP & performance figures on cars these days (Corvette and any SRT8 come to mind) to know that clean is mean. Efficient combustion reduces emissions, saves gas, and best of all, makes big power. I have an emission compliant 2.2 liter car that makes around 400HP and is faster in the 1/4 mile than an original Hemi Cuda or Charger was new. it also will idled in traffic (with a significant lope) with the air conditioning on, and it gets over 20 MPG on the highway if you just cruise at 65. That was not possible some years ago.   
Believe your car when the MIL goes on, it really is a smart car.

If you are interested in how fast a 2.2 / 2.5 Shelby Dodge will go, follow this link. Most in the 12 second and slower bracket are emission compliant. Those faster are mostly non compliant race cars.
Mine is in there at 13:39 @ 109mph on street tires.

http://www.sdac-chicago.org/drag-racing

Skicat, they are getting a 3.6% increase in their SS but.... Medicare is going up in a few months according to the news report.

New figures out today, anyone care to guess what metropolitan area has the highest per capita income? Must be near Wall Street where all that greed is right? How about Washington DC, Number one, You guys worship at one expensive alter. Time to move the protesters.

You are misinformed, Critter. A gas tank with a bad seal causes hydrocarbons, (unburned fuel) one of the causes of smog and ozone in the lower atmosphere, to escape. In addition, the emission system requires the tank to be sealed to perform a self check of the engine systems to insure your engine is operating properly. These are engines are not simple devices. The operate very efficiently and produce more power per unit of displacement than thought possible in a reliable engine just 20 years ago. It is accomplished using sensors and computers. Screw up the sensor ( air leak at gas cap) and the whole system is compromised. The gas cap is an integral part of the onboard diagnostics system (OBDII) and emissions control system, which are interrelated. The cap prevents the leakage of fuel vapors from the filler neck, which can be a major source of hydrocarbon emissions. A leaking or missing gas cap can result in the release of 30 gallons of fuel per year into the atmosphere.
I am sorry you can't understand the concept, but I can't make you a competent repair technician on this thread. I leave it with this. The MIL is and idiot light designed to tell you something is wrong with your car. If you can't understand that concept I believe you may need a moron light.

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critter wrote: phospher wrote: Because they don't want peoples cars spewing toxic garbage into the air that we in turn breath? What's so difficult to understand? It is answers like this that make me ask why I even bother to ask the question........ I repeat, the EPA lets me purchase the Code Reader and clear it myself... but not let me use the Autoparts store Reader to clear it. Do you understand that I still can clear it with about $100 ? So how does that stop anyone from "spewing toxic garbage into the air" ? And if you cannot afford a $100 Reader, you cannot afford to take a car into a dealer. Here they charge $85 to read the codes. And, a loose gas cap does not result in any additional emissions spewed into the air. It is an info code. That is why it is intermittent.

john b wrote: The answer? Because there is something wrong with the emission system! A code reader or disconnecting the battery turns off the MIL, but it does not clear the code. The code is still in the PCM.

This I understand. I just wanted the light to go out when I correct the
loose gas cap. Why is that so hard to understand ??

I had the code, I correct the loose gas cap, I wanted the light out...
I ended up using a family members Code Reader and cleared it.

Please do not report me to the EPA for clearing a Code that was only
an informational code anyway.

critter wrote: Went to Advance Auto and AutoZone for the same reason today. To read the code so that I knew what my next action should be. Advance was 1st and told me what the code meant and that it was by definition, intermittent. So I asked him to clear it for me. He said no can do. EPA says that autoparts cannot clear codes. I asked if I could use his Reader and clear myself. He said not anymore. I asked if I purchased a Code Reader would it be able to clear the code and could I do it. He said yes that I was allowed to with my own Reader. I drove down to Autozone and we went through the same conversation. I can purchase a Reader but they can no longer clear or allow me to use their Reader to clear a code. And they both say this was an EPA requirement. This makes no sense to me. They have both read and cleared, or allowed me to clear the codes in the past. Now they both said EPA says no more. Why does the EPA require me to purchase a Reader to do the same thing that I used to have done at the Autoparts store? I can understand them not clearing, but not to allow me to clear it with their Reader is news to me. Is this some of the new EPA Regulations that people are complaining about?

Because they don't want peoples cars spewing toxic garbage into the air that we in turn breath? What's so difficult to understand?

Yep, let's continue to deregulate the financial markets and trust these scumbags with our money.
Citigroup paying $285M to settle SEC fraud charges

The answer?
Because there is something wrong with the emission system!

A code reader or disconnecting the battery turns off the MIL, but it does not clear the code. The code is still in the PCM.