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Newt's baggage is nothing new, just being reintroduced. Same with Fanny, not a scandal. he advised them, they didn't take the advise. His company got millions, not necessarily all to him. He didn't register as a lobbyist. Fanny says he was not a lobbyist, No scandal. He scares the democrats because he will be hard to run against. Newts pluses are the Clinton years which all democrats boast of. Those years were ideas started by Newt that Clinton got credit for and the ability to work both sides to get things passed. Obama with his anti republican retoric is going to discourage independents.
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Newt will rise to the top. Remeber, he worked with the king of them all, Reagan, and the BEST democrat ever in Bill clinton. Cain will fall because of the liberal media, Romney does not have the experience like Newt and he likes goverment healthcare. My buddy Perry cant remeber uuuummmm oh I forgot...
Root for Newt, he will make Obama look AWFUL in the final run. My ballot is for Newt.
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I would love to watch Obama debate Newt. It will be interesting to see how Obama seeks to control the debate forum to find some type of home field advantage. I think Newt would mop the floor with him regardless. Even Better would be a debate between Newt and Biden.
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Don't forget Biden was tired. He had just been through all 57 or 58 states with Obama, The guy in the wheelchair was a republican. As for cain he thought they asked about Lydia and he didn't know any Lydia. Perry had just stepped into something (Branch & water). Might as well let the historian Bachman to join in.
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

I would love to watch Obama debate Newt. .


Talk about a debate.I would be glued to the TV on that one. 2 totally different views on polocy..
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Who can REALLY understand Newt's position?


I sure cannot keep up with his flip-flopping.

Are you even sure if he is really running, or simply promoting a book or movie.

Do you think the majority really thinks like newt/romney/cain/etc, etc?
I bet OWS will have a say.

OWS is the answer to the tea party, but it won't fade like the tea party has.

How come OWS hasn't been brought up here yet? Go ahead and answer that.

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Isn't it clearly apparent that OWS is just a bunch of thugs that want a......??? What the heck do they want? They sure don't have a message....or leader....or demand. Just a bunch of anarchists that like to keep productive people from getting anything done.

Maybe the Tea Party isn't out "occupying" everyday, but, I would submit to you that the Tea Party movement is very much alive and well in the way that most Americans have adopted their philosphy as a core belief.

I consider myself very much aligned with the Tea Party, but, I am not out carrying signs and protesting every day. I am just too busy working.

But, you can bet your last dollar when it comes time to vote, I will be the first one in line to vote conservative, and remove Obama from office. I think there are many millions like me. Call us the silent majority!!   
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Maybe the Tea Party isn't out "occupying" everyday, but, I would submit to you that the Tea Party movement is very much alive and well in the way that most Americans have adopted their philosphy as a core belief.

I feel you are very much misinformed as to the level of support for the Tea Party.
A CBS News/New York Times poll in September 2011, showed 19% of respondents supported the movement, 63% did not, and 16% said they did not know. Last I checked the term MOST generally means more than 50%. It is not a requirement that you stand with the 63% majority who do not support it however.
One other observation. You say you will be the first in line to vote conservative. It is possible you will be, even if you are at the back of the voting line!


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John B....You couldn't give me a free copy of the NYT to line my bird's cage! You couldn't have quoted two, more "unbiased", "reliable" sources of news. Pillars of the Lame Stream Media. Let me guess...the poll was heavily skewed Democrat??
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

Isn't it clearly apparent that OWS is just a bunch of thugs that want a......??? What the heck do they want? They sure don't have a message....or leader....or demand. Just a bunch of anarchists that like to keep productive people from getting anything done.


Yeah, really, that is so interesting. Have you not spent 10 minutes trying to figure out the movement? Not even to know WHAT OWS is about?

Lets see, a bunch of thugs get together in many cities across America, at the same time, with the same message, that you somehow cannot see or care to find out about?   Why are you posting here about OWS?

I suppose you did not see they arrested the former Chief of Police from Philly in the protests. He is retired at 74, and he was wearing his uniform. That, if you really are a tea partier who proclaims the Constitution, should really upset you.

Here, US citizens are being arrested on the guise of cleaning a park.


Yikes, I thought we had problems in this country. Whew, what a relief, I can forget about those jobs bills and healthcare for awhile.
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

John B....You couldn't give me a free copy of the NYT to line my bird's cage! You couldn't have quoted two, more "unbiased", "reliable" sources of news. Pillars of the Lame Stream Media. Let me guess...the poll was heavily skewed Democrat??


Let's look at the unbiased poll conducted by Fox News then:

FOX asked its visitors: What do you think the tea party movement is about?
Of the nearly quarter million votes cast, the overwhelming majority of the respondents (80 percent) clicked on the choice entitled: "Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories."
Only 13 percent chose: "Small government and fiscal responsibility," while five percent selected: "Voicing outrage at out-of-touch politicians."
The remaining two percent split their votes between: "Exposing Democrats' Socialist agenda" and "Other."
And this is the FOX News web site! Of course, it's not a scientific poll and they clearly mention that on their site.
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I suppose you did not see they arrested the former Chief of Police from Philly in the protests. He is retired at 74, and he was wearing his uniform. That, if you really are a tea partier who proclaims the Constitution, should really upset you.

Here, US citizens are being arrested on the guise of cleaning a park.


I am upset that a former police chief would wear a uniform to the protest. I remember at my former paramedic job there was a page of rules in our employee manual about wearing the uniform. It specifically prohibited former employees from doing so, It also wasn't allowed off duty, when you where the uniform it means you are representing that organization. Wearing a uniform indicates an allegiance to a group, it should be worn proudly. With your military background imagine how you would feel showing up for battle and seeing some disgruntled former military officer lined up in your sites with a bunch of terrorists in Afghanistan wearing your uniform. It is shameful that a former police chief would go out of his way to offend rather than support those that he expected and demanded loyalty from during his career.

It is also shameful to compare the tea party and the "occupy" groups in the same breath. The Tea Party has rally's to support our nations constitution. The Tea Party hires sanitation and security, they pull permits, they are responsible people exercising their right to assemble in a responsible way. The Occupy crowd is out protesting because they want to have re-distributed to them what they have not earned. The Occupy crowd has, as a stated goal, the desire to disrupt the activities of US citizens, and act in civil disobedience. What does disobedience mean to you? As far as the guise of cleaning a park,, I saw the photos of the conditions in the park, and I cannot believe from a public health and safety standpoint they let things go that long. That park is private property, anyone that is harmed there can go back after the owners for conditions that they knowingly allow to persist. We also have your precious government nanny agencies which heve been charged with overseeing and protecting populations health and well being. In New York alone there has been public nudity, urination, defecation, masturbation, people going days to weeks without bathing, drug use/ used needles left on the ground, garbage piled at the sites, rock throwing, access to business and streets blocked, occupancy limits exceeded, antisemitic chants, threats of violence, harassment, rapes, assaults. The right to assemble does not mean the right to do whatever you want. I can speak proudly of the way the tea party has represented itself, It takes a pretty warped perspective to do the same with the occupy crowd.
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maybe we should consider another, oops i pulled the trigger like Kent state?
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I just thought the occupied were all the homeless just gathering in one area
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Why are the democrates so in picking the republican nominee? They really want Romney, Why?

As for the OWS.... The fact that Obama, Pelosi, and the like are in favor of them we at least know it is the democrats counter part to the Tea Party.

As for Newt, He doesn't have any baggage we haven't seen before and most is old news and done. He did get much done to which Clinton gets credit for and can work with both sides, Something Obama can't and usually refuses to do. He is definately a bigger threat for the Dems.

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i got my eye on Newt
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Newt sure seems to be tapping into the conservative, "make government smaller" sentiment thats out there. Sure he has baggage. Which of them don't?

He is my new ABO Candidate (Anybody But Obama) candidate! I think the Republican primary will come down to Newt and Romney. And, the fact that Newt is tied with Romney in New Hampshire really says something. New Hampshire is in Romney's backyard. Its the countries desire to have a true conservative in the race.... at least according to Fox News

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if he took one dollar from fanny and freddy, he's no better than the rest of those a-holes that keep getting thrown at us, that will be out here in a few days....when is enough, enough?
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you guys are running low on your bag of tricks.....
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

you guys are running low on your bag of tricks.....


No tricks, but I feel that newt is the only one that can goe Toe to Toe with Obama and actually explain why Obama's policies and plans have either failed or why they won't work. He has the best foreign policy knowledge, the best clue as to how things get done or not in Washington. He has been to the rodeo and while he may not have rode he knows the game better than any of the other republican hopefuls. The democrats are a little to anxious to see Romney the canidate and that scares me.
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Newt is for smaller goverment, lower taxes, less dependent on foreign polocy and most off all energy. We need to focus on energy like we used too, creates alot of jobs and makes my pocket book look real good too..

The liberal media is horrified of Newt Gingrich and making the others fight one another. What Newt says here is so true. I hate liberal media.

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No more fanny and freddie.. The goverment should have never bailed them out..
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

Isn't it clearly apparent that OWS is just a bunch of thugs that want a......??? What the heck do they want? They sure don't have a message....or leader....or demand. Just a bunch of anarchists that like to keep productive people from getting anything done.


Yeah, really, that is so interesting. Have you not spent 10 minutes trying to figure out the movement? Not even to know WHAT OWS is about?

Lets see, a bunch of thugs get together in many cities across America, at the same time, with the same message, that you somehow cannot see or care to find out about?   Why are you posting here about OWS?

I suppose you did not see they arrested the former Chief of Police from Philly in the protests. He is retired at 74, and he was wearing his uniform. That, if you really are a tea partier who proclaims the Constitution, should really upset you.

Here, US citizens are being arrested on the guise of cleaning a park.


Yikes, I thought we had problems in this country. Whew, what a relief, I can forget about those jobs bills and healthcare for awhile.


Called loitering dude. You can not set camp up in a particular place as these LOSERS have done..   
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Oh and did you see what Obama called America this week. "LAZY"!!! U kiddding me..
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Some great points above.

The tea party is still in full swing. They were to have a townhall with a Utah senator(not reid) and the senate rules committee threw them out. They did have their meeting but had to relocate.

The Dems pooched one good yesterday. Imagine congress having to maintain a budget...how shameful. So just what are the dems who voted no saying?

BO is pushing back all of his decisions until after the election. Wish I understood why.

And I agree that the dems want Romney. Cain scared the hell out of them. They tarnished Cain's name the same way they did to BO's opposition in his senate race. <---This is worth looking into.

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maybe the Dems tarnished Paterno's name too. it fcn kills me, if it was a professor at that school it wouldve been headline news the next day, we live in a sick fcn world, not changing the subject but to me that school is protecting big business, its a buddy system and politics are no different,
Cain didnt scare me Greg, he likes to stick his hands up girls skirts, at first I liked his thoughts, but now his judgement to me is in question.
I like Newts thoughts, but I am afraid he has had his hand out, once a cheater always a cheater no matter the circumstances.
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ski, when your fat your lazy, take a walk in your local mall and report back, how many fats nips you seen lately? your the first one to bark about government handouts....so have we become a lazy society? I think so,
1st in obesity, 47th in education.......have we become lazy?
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ski, when your fat your lazy, take a walk in your local mall and report back, how many fats nips you seen lately? your the first one to bark about government handouts....so have we become a lazy society? I think so,
1st in obesity, 47th in education.......have we become lazy?


Eric,

Maybe in those catagories we show to be lazy. But a president telling other countries is blantley wrong. Shows no class of leadership for the country. And if you take a look at Obama's polociys, socialist likes lazy folks. They want us to live in huts and feed us a pieace of rice.

BTW, he has created is own monster. None of his agenda has worked, and never will. And these folks down on wall street protesting, are protesting capitlism. Have you taken a look at these peps. No fking brain cells cause of the drugs. They just want something for nothing..
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Oh and did you see what Obama called America this week. "LAZY"!!! U kiddding me..



You are so lame.   Do you really think he called the Americans lazy? You sir, follow the points the rich want you to, to your own pitiful end.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

ski, when your fat your lazy, take a walk in your local mall and report back, how many fats nips you seen lately? your the first one to bark about government handouts....so have we become a lazy society? I think so,
1st in obesity, 47th in education.......have we become lazy?


Eric,

Maybe in those catagories we show to be lazy. But a president telling other countries is blantley wrong. Shows no class of leadership for the country. And if you take a look at Obama's polociys, socialist likes lazy folks. They want us to live in huts and feed us a pieace of rice.

BTW, he has created is own monster. None of his agenda has worked, and never will. And these folks down on wall street protesting, are protesting capitlism. Have you taken a look at these peps. No fking brain cells cause of the drugs. They just want something for nothing..



Ski, You are proving your own ignorance.   Most in the world do know what the OWS is about.

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