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peter1234
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Tim if you could get a commitment or deposit from everyone that is truly interested . I would worry about all the other legalities later ,(there wont be any ) I would also love to get a set of those seats you have started on .
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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quinner
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What are you like 2 yrs old?? Whose fault is it you post something this ridiculous acting like a total Dik??? |
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65 'cuda
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I investigated reproducing these same emblems about 5 years ago, someone brought up the license issue, so I called Correct Craft. If a one time run of a few emblems was to be made, CC did not want to be involved, if an ongoing offering was to be made, the process would have been really, really simple. CC wanted to inspect and approve a sample of the emblem, and wanted a $5.00 "royalty" for each pair sold. Easy as that. Keep in mind that this was prior to the current ownership/mamnagement at CC.
Tim, if you move forward on this, and the costs get better, the 'cuda could use a set! Thanks for your efforts on this. |
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connorssons
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Tim! i will take a set if there is one left, tried e mailing, sorry. call me 269 506 1249 jeff. looking forward from hearing from ya! thanks
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8122pbrainard
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Tim, If you mean myself, do me a favor and quote me the statement I made that required you to get a license. I'm sorry but I just can't remember the statement or the wording that would force you to seek and obtain the license. Thanks. |
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adamt
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Pete getting upset over something!?!? Say it isn't so!!! |
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TRBenj
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Jeff, Im hit or miss on the phone (many here can attest to that!). Its best to email me: TRBenj@gmail.com Gary, good info on the prior licensing arrangement... Ill keep that in mind if this project ends up going anywhere. |
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nautique frk
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I just purchased a set of reproduced 60's emblems off of ebay made in Brass they will have to be chromed I spent 95 bucks ? Item 110778754353
If you remake I will take a set. |
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TRBenj
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Mike, see my previous post- I believe you bought the incorrect emblems if you were looking for the 60's style.
As I stated before, the cost of the plating is greater than the cost of the casting... and thus, pricing (per pair) would be nowhere near the $95 level. |
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nautique frk
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So the 60's ones are longer ? I need a set for my 63 starflite
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TRBenj
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Yup. According to the auction you linked to, those emblems are for a '58 and are 10" long. The 60's version is 15" long and is not available anywhere, unless you can find them used. Shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com |
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Alex47
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I dont mean to threadjack but I've noticed alot of interest for bowstops in this thread. For those of you who are interested in a bowstop, I just posted one in the for sale section.
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Tim D
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Hard to believe it was 5 years ago I made some plastic castings.
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3888&KW=&PID=28504&title=look-what-i-made#28504 This pic is missing. |
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Tim D
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wingwrench
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I need to buy a vowel.
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DrCC
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And a "n"
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65 'cuda
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Tim D,
How do those hold up? they would be better than the decals I have now. |
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Mojo
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Tim,
We all understand why you won't share with us the price of the parts... No one wants to bare the cost of the tooling in one set of emblems... What you may want to do is to look at how many sets it would take to get the total cost down to a reasonable number say $100-$150 per set and do a group buy and pop the parts... If that's 10-20 or 100 sets, at least you'll know what your break even is or comfortable margin worth doing... These are rare and needed items for restoration.No one is going to expect these parts to be cheap, so unless you want to just chaulk this up as a bust, lay it on the line and see if it works... Suggestion: I understand why you went to brass, but in the end it really kills the cost.. The chrome is going to last the same on brass or metal. It will still pit etc.. Perhaps a different material would make it more worth while...??? Thanks for taking the time to go through the process. It's greatly appreciated.. Moj' |
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73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
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TRBenj
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Moj, I appreciate the input.
Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, the volume discount was really small (~5% for a run of 200). This is using the same sand casting process as they used for the trial run. Not sure theyre set up to do other types of molds/tooling to get the costs down for greater volume. The original plan was to do a set in brass/chrome and another in aluminum... they had some problems casting the brass, so didnt even bother trying the aluminum- but had they been successful, the cost of those would be about half (since no plating would be required). Right now its looking like the project is dead, at least for now. I think Im going to cut my losses and regroup. Maybe try to find a few different suppliers that can cut costs more effectively sometime down the road. I still have one pair of new emblems that are not spoken for... so if someone wants them, email me: TRBenj@gmail.com For those who are desperately looking for a pair and dont need something show quality, I have a set or 2 that I may be willing to part with. They vary in condition (some more pitted than others), but shoot me an email if youre interested. |
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Mojo
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Tim, drop me an email d.dorsen@att.net DD |
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73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
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TRBenj
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Dave, email sent!
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8122pbrainard
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nautique frk
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Tim D do you still make in plastic they look nice and I guess you can chrome plastic right ?
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TRBenj
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My suppliers determined that they could not reign in the costs on these, so I am officially declaring this project dead. Perhaps I will regroup sometime down the road and get some more made using new suppliers, but at the current rate of my other projects, dont hold your breath.
Both new pairs are spoken for, but I may have 1-2 nice original pairs available. If interested, please email me: TRBenj@gmail.com |
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Tim D
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I haven't made any emblems in a while. I think the plastic is the wrong kind for chroming.
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Tim D
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peter1234
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Tim Benjamin . what did i miss for the cost of producing a pair? sorry if it was posted already or if youd rather keep it private
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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8122pbrainard
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Tim, It's not the type of plastic that allows chroming but rather the prep. Plastics are sprayed with a conductive coating that allows them to be put in the plating tank. If you have ever seen the chrome peeled off plastic, you'll notice a coating under the chrome. Usually it's a grey color almost like a primer. |
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TRBenj
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Peter, my cost was right at $300 per pair. It seems that is beyond what most would be willing to pay. I couldnt afford to hold any stock at that price... and the few places I checked with didnt seem interested in doing so either! Perhaps I'll have better luck with a different foundry/plater in the future.
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peter1234
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thanks I understand .
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DrCC
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Skip the chrome.
Offer polished brass for 250.00 pair. If I were in need, I'd rather have brass than plated pot-metal. Leave the plating option open for those that don't mind spending the extra for a more accurate re-pop. Other companies who re-issue their own products, make slight changes so that their re-issued product is not easily confused with an original. |
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TRBenj
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Al, not a bad idea. Maybe I will offer both if I ever give it another go-around. I had high hopes for the lower cost aluminum option- Im bummed it didnt pan out.
For now, I believe I'll have 2 pairs of nice, original 60's emblems available to sell. One pair is being taken in on trade for the new brass/chrome, the other was mine that was used to create the molds. If anyone is interested, please email me: TRBenj@gmail.com I also have a pair of original 50's emblems (10" long) that I will let go for a reasonable price. |
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