351w starter question

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   I got stuck offshore couple days ago my starter wouldn't engage. The starter was rebuilt by RAPCO a local company in stuart fl. where i live. Its only lasted 4 months maybe and maybe 15 trips offshore. I was looking at new starters on skidim and they have the solenoid on the starter itself. my 351w has the solenoid on the top of the motor and not on the starter. I was wondering if i can replace the starter in my boat with the one skidim has with the solenoid on starter, or if i should just try to find the one i had in there.  

engine: 1986 351w BW1.1

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jblocal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September-06-2010 Location: Stuart, Florida Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote jblocal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 351w starter question Posted: March-25-2012 at 11:50pm
	I got stuck offshore couple days ago my starter wouldn't engage. The starter was rebuilt by RAPCO a local company in stuart fl. where i live. Its only lasted 4 months maybe and maybe 15 trips offshore. I was looking at new starters on skidim and they have the solenoid on the starter itself. my 351w has the solenoid on the top of the motor and not on the starter. I was wondering if i can replace the starter in my boat with the one skidim has with the solenoid on starter, or if i should just try to find the one i had in there. engine: 1986 351w BW1.1

slmskrs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: January-03-2012 Location: SF bay area, CA Status: Offline Points: 522	Post Options Post Reply Quote slmskrs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-26-2012 at 5:46am
	If it was me, I'd call skidim and ask them (so if they send you one they recommended and it doesn't work, they can take it back and ship the correct one). Also, I'd want them to confirm the one with the solenoid on top of the starter will fit your block. Other than that (and making sure it is the correct rotation), I don't see any reason why it would be a problem (although you'll have to route the solenoid wire from the key switch down to where the starter is, as well as the battery positive cable--maybe you can get a different length cable that goes from where the current battery terminal-to-solenoid cable connects to the battery-source terminal (on the power panel on the rear of the engine), and run one cable from the battery-source terminal to the solenoid on the starter--you don't want to splice that cable... ;-)
	Gordon '97 Ski Nautique, GT40

slmskrs Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: January-03-2012 Location: SF bay area, CA Status: Offline Points: 522	Post Options Post Reply Quote slmskrs Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-26-2012 at 5:49am
	Hit send too soon. Just wanted to mention something that someone on the forum wisely mentioned to me recently (and is worth repeating, at least in my mind)... That is that skidim is in the business to keep our used, older boats running, so they know a lot about our engines, etc. (they know more about my GT40 than PCM does now). I'd get their recommendation.
	Gordon '97 Ski Nautique, GT40

8122pbrainard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045	Post Options Post Reply Quote 8122pbrainard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-26-2012 at 8:13am
	When you say the starter would not engage, do you mean it would not engage the flywheel or wouldn't rotate electrically? If the later, what checks have you done to the electrics?
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Bri892001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bri892001 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-26-2012 at 12:58pm
	You can still get the old style starter at Nautiqueparts (among others): http://www.nautiqueparts.com/starterrighthandreverserotation.aspx You can also use the newstyle though. Get one that comes with the wiring etc., they come in a kit format and will still utilize your old solenoid to some degree. You'll have two solenoids, and instead of your old remote one controlling the starter, it will send signal to the new (piggybacked) solenoid, which will control the new starter.

john_33612 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: December-07-2011 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote john_33612 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-26-2012 at 1:44pm
	this is what I put on my 86 FN 5 years ago , still works fine , do't mess with rebuild's to hard to change in a FN , this is for reverse rotation http://www.amarket.com/mes337ml.htm

jblocal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: September-06-2010 Location: Stuart, Florida Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote jblocal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-27-2012 at 3:06am
	What do you think would be better and older "Heavy Duty" starter, or the new style with the permanent magnet?

john_33612 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: December-07-2011 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote john_33612 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: March-27-2012 at 9:47am
	the new small starters were made to save weight in cars , the bigger around the starter the more power , MES for $139 and don't have to worry about it for 5 years , I fish 35 miles out , so it has to start , even with seatow ,http://www.mesmarine.com/warranty.html

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