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Bri892001
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Hmmm, so did you figure out if there was a blockage at the hull fitting? Or is it just that the Fake a Lake wasn't doing it's job?
The pulley alignment thing has come up before... It should be in line, but others have said that it's sometimes not in line to start with. |
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Any chance your temp gauge or sending unit is bad? Do you have a infrared thermometer to double check?
just a thought... |
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Use the hose at the through hull fitting. Then, the strainer and cooler will be included in the test. |
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Agreed. If you have the 1.23 transmission, then you have a LH rotation motor. If you have a 1:1 transmission, then you have a RH rotation motor (and in which case, your RWP would be installed upside down). Look at the tag on the transmission, it will tell you the ratio. Or give us an overall picture of the engine- the mounting angle is different between the 2 set ups. Or, give us the serial number off the tag on your intake manifold- it has all that information built in. |
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8122pbrainard
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I tried doing a search for "the bucket test" but couldn't find a thread. I feel getting it off the hose and and doing the test may tell alot.
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Unless you let your RWP suck water out of a bucket you are just going to continue chasing your tail.
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It looks like the screw on the body of the pump is facing in, which is correct IF he has the (more common) 1.23 trans in his '94.
Any chance you have the old impeller around to try? I think I see the key in the shaft of the pump, so the impeller is probably spinning. Ive heard of impellers becoming separated from the hub though. Is this an OEM sherwood impeller? |
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Just for laughs, see if you can confirm that your impeller pulley is definitely turning the shaft. I thought I read something on her about a key coming out of the keyway, and then the shaft wouldn't turn the impeller. |
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I was talking about the bottom of the transmission cooler. They get clogged sometimes
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It looks like you have the 1.23 transmission, is that correct?
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And you're really sure you didn't somehow rotate the whole pump body around by accident. AKA, which way is your impeller set screw facing?
Check out these directions, they make it pretty easy: http://aquaskier.com/articles/impeller_replacement.htm |
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[QUOTE=waker319]
(( the first picture is something i saw after the strainer (in order as in coming in from hull intake) it looks like a filter but theres hoses coming out to engine block and tranny... i checked for blockage but it was clear... )) That is your transmission cooler. You did check the bottom for blockage? |
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If you're getting plenty of water out the exhaust, perhaps you have a blockage or you have a circulation pump issue. Is the circulation pump turning freely? Excessive shaft play? If the circulation pump is not working, the RWP would likely supply enough pressure to push some water through the engine, but not much, perhaps this explains the 160 with no tstat and 200 with a tstat.
Has the engine been rebuilt recently or had the heads off? Head gaskets can be and are often installed backwards on the SBF engine and will result in running very hot. |
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Not much at all. A gal. of gas contains 114,000 BTU's. At idle, it takes quite a long time to burn 1 gal. Removing 1 BTU, one pound of water will only increase in temp 1 degree and we all know the cooling water gets hotter than a delta T of one degree. |
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Im not assuming anything... but if he's supplying very low water pressure to the RWP, then Id still say thats a water flow problem, not an air leak problem.
Still, it shouldnt take a ton of water to keep the engine cool at idle, in neutral. |
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TB- You might be correct, but you are assuming that he has the water turned up full pressure. |
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If these symptoms were on the lake, then I would agree. But I run on the trailer with a gross air leak (I do not shut off the intake grate path on my tee'd water input) and never run above 160. The fact that he runs 160 with no stat is indicative of a water flow problem. I think the the RWP test is a good place to start. |
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1. You have an air leak.
2. You might have put the pump on backwards and the hose is pushing enough water to keep it around 195. Put a hose from the RWP into a bucket full of water (with the hose filling it) and see what happens. If it puts out bubbles you have the pump backwards. If it cools it you have a leak between the RWP and the inlet. |
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