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P71_CrownVic
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You mean that it wouldn't be too hard to make a single exhaust boat sound good...I assume? I want that wonderful, medicinal V8 rumble...but I also don't want to have a boat with wooden stringers...thus my problem. I have seen V8 trucks with single exhaust that sound great..and assume the same could be done to a boat. |
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P71_CrownVic
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In other words...remove the 2-1 muffler and that wonderful V8 sound will appear? |
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wakeboardin2k4
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yes basically. Remove the 2-1 muffler and replace it with the 2-1 stainless steel y pipe that TRBenj suggested and you will get v8 sound.
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P71_CrownVic
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Awesome...you just made my day!
Now I can look at boats with non-wood stringers! |
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tapenick
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Off topic - but when did CC stop using wood stringers?
On topic - didn't see any of the pre-built products on that site that looked like they would work. Did I miss it? |
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P71_CrownVic
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I have heard that 1993+ boats do not have wooden stringers. |
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wakeboardin2k4
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I heard it was 1995. I could be wrong. Its happened before, will happen again.
I don't see why those 4 inch y pipes wouldnt work. From each of your risers you run about 3-4 feet of tubing. Bring the tubing from the right riser over to the left side where they both meet with the Y pipe. Then adjust the length of the exhaust hose going to your tailpipe to match with the Y pipe bottom and use some clamps to ensure no movement...instant v8 sound |
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TRBenj
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Matt was correct- CC went to all composite in '93.
To make the Y-pipe that I linked to work, reducers will need to be added at the inputs. I '92 and later boats got the 3.5" risers, all earlier boats got 3" (like my '90). All single outlets were 4". |
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tapenick
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Any after pics of the bilge around the rudder arm? Tom |
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RedSquad7
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So has anyone actually removed the invertaflo and built a 2 into 1 straight thru exhaust? I read some earlier ideas in this older thread and wondered if its been done. I am really wanting to ditch the invertaflo- Just not sure I want to fab and create a true dual like trbenj did. I LOVE his setup but would really like to avoid cutting another exhaust opening and modding the steering system. Ideas? Pics? Items needed? Shouldn't be too hard right?
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75 Tique
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Dan,
When referring to "this older thread" I don't know if you were referring to this thread where Tim converted to duals or if you meant another thread, so I don't know if you saw this one or not where a guy got rid of the invertaflo with a y-pipe. |
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Your killing me Doc this is better than a soap !!! hahahah |
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RedSquad7
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Lol! Yes Larry, I meant this thread- the last post was in '09 on it! I'm gonna check your link now. I'ts been hit and miss with the search. Thanks for posting brother.
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TRBenj
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Bringing this thread back to life...
After several years of threatening to do it, Ive finally taken the next step on this project. As Raindog would say, I neutered my boat. That is to say, I added some mufflers. The original intent of this modification was to enhance performance and improve the looks... the added noise was a byproduct, though not necessarily an unwelcome one. While fun for a time, I decided that since this is my dedicated ski boat, it should be a little more civilized. From now on, the BFN will not have to suffice when I get the urge to hear some straight pipes. While I had the floor up, I decided to try adding an H-pipe as well, to see what the effects would be. Im happy to report that the mufflers did a great job of knocking back the sound by a considerable amount- not quite to original invertaflow levels of quiet, but distinctive bark is much reduced... and I can actually hear the slight whine of the transmission again. The H-pipe seems to have offset any performance loss that the mufflers brought to the table, as I picked up about a needle's width of rpms at WOT (maybe 20rpm?). Please excuse the dirty bilge and lack of double clamping... more are on order. |
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C-Bass
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Were the invertaflows a little louder than the hull huggers? I never was happy with the sound of our Sport (GT40) and I wanted a little more bark, so we recently pulled the hull hugger out and I was really suprised how much louder the boat is now. It sounds awesome from the shore and anywhere in the boat, except for the backseat. In the back, it is borderline annoying unfortunately. I wish there was some middle ground, but this will have to do.
And from one dirty bilge to another...you're excused. |
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TRBenj
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The invertaflows and hull huggers are both pretty quiet... going from memory, I couldnt speak to the audible differences.
I expect to notice a big difference once I get behind the boat- people from shore said they noticed a huge difference. The loudness never bothered me from the driver's seat. |
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Knowledge comes by taking things apart: analysis. But wisdom comes by putting things together.
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TRBenj
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Ive heard great things about those T-bolt clamps... but theyre tremendously expensive! I will have a total of 36 clamps in my exhaust... a standard set up would be a little more reasonable (~16).
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80SN Barnfind
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Yep, they do cost more, $4.73 was the most reasonable I could find in all stainless. That would hurt with 36 clamps!
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kapla
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those clamps sure look nice!
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Gary S
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They are nice but on a Mustang I think using them under the floor
would give you clearance issues. I did use them on the manifold connections. |
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JoeinNY
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If it's too loud you're too old!
Tim Benjamin turns 30 and next thing you know he is putting mufflers on all his boats.. blasphemous! Who would have thunk it. Heck, I didnt put mufflers back on my boat till I was 35.. Maybe I am just not seeing something here? Where and what mufflers are you using? No performance data with just the H-pipe only? |
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TRBenj
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Ha, I must be getting old.
Those shiny little canisters aft of the H-pipe are the mufflers... small but effective. Ive had them for a few years now, but pretty sure I got them from Rex Marine. No, no performance data with the H-pipe only... I was trying to conserve exhaust hose, so I did it all in one shot. Its gotta be a performance enhancer though, as I dont imagine the mufflers are contributing anything. |
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skyway2k
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Do you have any pictures handy of what you did with the tiller arm / steering setup? I'd love to see the mods you made to fit the 2nd hose through.
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TRBenj
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Im afraid I dont... |
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Alex47
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I'm late to the party.. First time looking at this thread. What an incredible job, I am very impressed! Looks like this project was alot of work. Those custom SS exhaust pipes are so awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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skyway2k
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Well, you know what to do next time you have the fuel tank out. On a side note, I was thinking about taking out my Invertaflo muffler and converting to a Y-pipe on my '91. Your project was spectacular, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to go through all that yet on mine. |
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Where did the exhaust manifolds come from?? and are they just for looks or was there performance gain??
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hello??
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75 Tique
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I'm not the most qualified person to answer but those are Hi-Teks. They are (or were) made in Australia. A few years ago, several guys on here (TRBenj, Boat Dr and JoeinNY and possibly some others) ordered some. They supposedly help performance through better flow. They are pricey. The price is mentioned in some old threads, but I dont have time to look right now. I am thinking $1200 to 1600 a set, but I could be way off. There was some story that they farmed out the manufacture to China or something like that, that may have compromised the quality, but I dont recaall that story exactly, but there hasnt been as much interest lately. |
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