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moon 
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 Topic: trans noisePosted: July-29-2012 at 3:16pm |
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just bought 86 nautique with engine and trans out ,when bolting trans. to bellhousing noticed trans. makes a clicking noise when input and output shafts are turned is this normal . its ready to install hope i can get a quick answer . thanks
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 5:51pm |
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Tracy,
Are you sure it's the trans making the clicking sound and not the damper? Without the engine driving the trans pump, there is no internal connection in the trans to lock up the clutch plates in ether forward or reverse. Hopefully you did install a new damper. Now's the time to do it if not. For some reason especially on the OEM PCM damper, they are pretty short lived. Their spring pocket design is poor (stamped round bottoms - you do not want the ends of springs in a round bottom) so the springs will break. Did you check the damper? Welcome to CCfan. When are we going to see some pictures of the project?  We always ask and actually demand them!!Do, please submit pictures and text for the diary section as well. |
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 8:06pm |
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im assuming you are talking about damper being on or part of fly wheel,noise is comming from front of trans in pump area when either in put or output is turned while not connected to engine.
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 8:19pm |
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Tracy,
The damper is the spring loaded flex coupling from the flywheel to the trans. If the noise is not coming from it, you should consider having the trans rebuilt. The best out there is Fantastic Finish Marine. If you did not put a new damper on, your have made a BIG mistake. |
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 8:29pm |
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thanks for quick reply, i picked boat up from a dealer yesterday they had rebuilt engine and had everything back together , trans just needed to be bolted on and motor installed i was assured all was well..... but ... not sure about noise. i can turn input or output and get same noise while holding opposit shaft from turning. whats normal cost for trans rebuild,new damper. thanks
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 8:37pm |
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A new damper will run 90 to 100. I think FFM gets about 750 to 800 for a rebuild.
You were "assured all is well" from a dealer? Well, that's new one on me!!  As mentioned, without the pump supplying oil pressure to the trans, nothing inside is coupled!! They rebuilt the engine?????? |
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 9:05pm |
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the input and output shafts have a bit of gear lash.
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 9:21pm |
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yeah they rebuilt it lol..not to woried i can do anything with the engine , been a while since ive had to work on a little guy though used to alot more HP . trans is a diffrent matter... i have already installed in boat today gonna give it a try and hope for the best running out of summer. worst case i bought the 82 nautique last fri. that was listed in boats for sale on this site and its almost water ready. thanks again for input, i will get pics. up soon now back to the garage
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 9:24pm |
Luch. As mentioned, only if there is pressure when running to lock up the forward or reverse clutch's. The only lash I would expect is from the clearance in the reverse planetary gear set. Sorry but I don't think you would hear a "click" from it. |
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 9:28pm |
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have you been there feeling the click? why so eager to send him over for a rebuild on something you havent actually seen... some lash is normal.
lets agree to disagree on this one. |
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Posted: July-29-2012 at 9:33pm |
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I agree to disagree on this one!
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Posted: August-09-2012 at 1:42pm |
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A little update .. engine runs good .... trans not so good no rev. Pulled trans out of 82 have it in 86 tonight. Be on the water this weekend! Thanks again for the help
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Posted: March-20-2013 at 12:07am |
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finely got around to trans , reverse clutch disks broke in half,clicking was top half of one disk "bouncing" on the drum
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Posted: March-20-2013 at 12:24am |
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Ah so clicking: baaaad
So it needed a rebuild. Pete wins. |
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