You didn build that !

OverMyHead wrote: Hansel wrote: Waste is always going to happen. Have you heard of a little company called Motorola, and something called six sigma? Here is some background.Prior to the mid 80's defects rates were simply accepted by companies who like you said they were "always going to happen". Then Motorola went outside the box and set off to achieve six sigma. It is now a common business practice.

Yes I have heard of them. They are the personification of poor management and waste. Have you invested in them? If so you would know:

Stock value 2005 = $86.62 / share
Stock value 2012 = $51.68 / share

They no longer design or manufacture any of their consumer wireless products, that is now done in India. they are an expert in outsourcing jobs.
Great decisions they have made too. In 1995 they built a 1,500,000 square foot facility in Harvard Illinois ( a small Illinois dairy town with a population of 7996) at cost of more than $100 million to manufacture cell phones.
They abandoned the site in 2003 leaving an enormous abandoned building. The building, a gleaming corporate headquarters, was sold in 2005 to a real estate development firm for 14 million, at a loss of $86,000,000. In addition, the State of Illinois had to chip in $35 million of our tax dollars in incentives to close the deal. The small town of Harvard has never recovered because they implemented all of the capitol infrastructure improvements to support the plant on the backs of the 8,000 residents. That is the reason Illinois helped them with the $35,000,000. It would take a long time for the 8,000 residents to pay off that bond issue.
Clearly they didn't build that. They sponged off of the contributions of town residents who provided the infrastructure to support this monstrosity. They then closed up shop leaving the residents with the bill.
They are now slated to close their facility in India as well since being bought by Google for 14B. They are a wasteful dinosaur on an unimaginable scale that can't compete. Maybe google will breathe new life into them.

Motoroal to shutter India manufacturing

Motorola closed the plant in 2003 as it scaled back manufacturing operations amid heavy losses

Motorola sells Harvard corporate headquarters

OverMyHead wrote: John, none of that changes the significance of Six Sigma,which brought the general expectation in business of 67,000 problems per million opportunities 3.4 problems per million opportunities. You are arguing a point that was never made. The point was we choose to accept that "Waste is always going to happen."

Yes, we do chose to accept that waste always happens, some think that in an organization as big as the government it never will and focus on the times it does. I am pointing out that the private sector is the biggest creator of waste in money and human and environmental resources. How did that six sigma work out for Motorola? You used them as an example, not me.

John In the 90's what brand radio was in your squad car? I worked for the fiscally tightest ambulance service around, but we paid top dollar for Motorola because they were the only ones we could count on to work. We demo'ed a lot competitors hand helds, but they were always the last ones out of the charger.

Considering your profession, I would be very surprised if you did not have a story where a life was saved by a Motorola radio, very possibly your own.

OverMyHead wrote: John In the 90's what brand radio was in your squad car? I worked for the fiscally tightest ambulance service around, but we paid top dollar for Motorola because they were the only ones we could count on to work. We demo'ed a lot competitors hand helds, but they were always the last ones out of the charger. Considering your profession, I would be very surprised if you did not have a story where a life was saved by a Motorola radio, very possibly your own.

OverMyHead wrote: John In the 90's what brand radio was in your squad car? I worked for the fiscally tightest ambulance service around, but we paid top dollar for Motorola because they were the only ones we could count on to work.

Good save on the drowning guy!
Motorola did make the best public safety communication gear.
They were the only game in town. They made a good bit of the covert equipment too. Basically, they survived on a steady diet of government pork. We changed to some Collins equipment and some smaller manufacturers in the mid 90s.

The days of a car and a Motorola radio are long gone. Our squad cars, and those of most well equipped state of the art departments, don't have radios any more. Communications are digitally encoded and transmitted to a computer in the car. It saves time and manpower since the officer can read the screen as the call is being entered by the dispatcher. They still have voice communication, but it is through an interoperative radio with a wireless earpiece. The radio is carried on their belt. It can operate encoded or not and has every police and government frequency on it. They cost $7,600 each. Each officer has their own. That's 70 radios plus a number of spares when one needs service. The in car audio and video system is hooked up to a second computer in the trunk that transmits is capable of transmitting on the cell phone band, any hot spot, and a private network of village towers and repeaters. The data is stored on a solid state hard drive in a vault in the trunk (like an aircraft CVR of FDR). Every conversation on the street is recorded and archived both with audio and video. The car upload the information to a server each time you pass one of the village operated hot spots. It works great as evidence in court and assures the officer is courteous and professional. In addition many cars are equipped with a camera and license plate recognition software. They run the license plate of every car the squad car comes near, up to 20 per minute and archive that information. If a vehicle or the owner of the vehicle is suspended, revoked, wanted, expired, or has other problems the computer will give a tone of your selection (a person laughing would be best) and the screen will display the information so you can effect a traffic stop.
Yes, the days of a car with a radio are long gone.

john b wrote: a wise man once said, we don't use as many bayonets and horses now either. Sincerely, D/A Digboy!

He is not that wise, I read that bayonets are still standard issue for some if not all marines and that they, and the manufacturer were a little offended. Horses also still see military use, but to a greatly diminished capacity. There is a big difference between using less and not having enough.

The rescue definitely took several key parts to bring the story the a happy ending (had to word that carefully). Had someone not heard him and called 911 the story is over. He was a small spot in the spotlight field, and the water was cold, (we transported him for hypothermia treatment) there was no way any rescue was going to happen from shore. It took four firemen in full turnout gear in a 20 horse row boat (looked crazy over capacity with the victim onboard) to make the actual rescue. He was out boating with several drunk friends and fell off the back. They did not realize he was gone until they got to the boat ramp about 8 miles up stream from where we found him. I was contacted by the researchers from Rescue 911 and was nearly famous but the victim did not want to be on TV. Who needs fame anyway?

I watched a friend stand on a sea ray swim platform drunk, one hand held the swim trunks a little down in front and aimed while the other held onto the tri-pod ski pole. The trunks slipped and he gave his own face a golden shower. Might of been better to be a body recovery than to try and live that down.

   2016 Ya know it's a movie, and someones agenda is behind it.
If 1/2 is close to the truth, it should make you think.
My self, I'm worried that if B O gets another 4 yrs.
MY country may never recover.

The homies he hung with early on are America HATERS.
I know the people I knew back in the day shape my thinking today.

Waterdog wrote:     2016 Ya know it's a movie, and someones agenda is behind it. If 1/2 is close to the truth, it should make you think. My self, I'm worried that if B O gets another 4 yrs. MY country may never recover. The homies he hung with early on are America HATERS.

I am just as worried as you are. The forcast proves close to 22 trillion more in debt, the captilist system will be broke into a communist one. This is the biggest election ever. I will be glued to the tv on Tuesday night. That guy that made 2016 did a heck of job in finding out the truth. Those haters where communist leaders and trained him all the way. There will be civil war in the streets if he is re elected. People will be shooting each other for a cheesburger.

juniorwoody wrote: You guys are a bunch of doomsday prophets, hate-mongers and agitators. Get real. Just what is it that you'all have done so special that you have earned the right to be so outspoken?

   Hi Jack,   (don't say that on an airplane)

I'm not a doomsday prophet or hate monger. What gives you the right to call me something I have not earned? I am a free man in the greatest country in the world and I'm able to speak my voice.
I try to be a good Christian, though I'm a human and at times i fall short but I'm at my best when I'm Human Being.
God gave me this wonderful book of life and I can write ANYTHING I want to in it today - but tomorrow I can't erase what I wrote.
So I try to watch what I write. Somethimes I fall short cause i'm
human

Thats my excuse...

OverMyHead wrote: The government takes our money, They have no competitors and when they run out of our money they raise taxes.

Think about Mexico. Their government definitely has a competitor (drug cartels) & the cartels are winning.

We are fighting the wrong enemy in this country. Drug use is corrupting our entire hemisphere. Much more important than Iran. But how much did our candidates talk about that?

I wrote - "I know the people I knew back in the day shape my thinking today."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLNfmxn5jt4

The link is to a Harry Chapin song "Bummer"

It had (has) a big influance on me.
ONE of the reasons I've been sworn to
up hold the Constitution since 1975

Not all fact though,
Dewight H. Johnson is burried at Arlington, Va.

Harry Chapin is one of the greatest
story tellers of all time.

I believe Jackson Browned is a contender for that title.

Songwriters: BROWNE, JACKSON

I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you've seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war

And there's a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interest runs

On the radio talk shows and the t.v.
You hear one thing again and again
How the u.s.a. stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends--
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally can't take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone

There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

There's a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we can't even say the names

They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars

I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But they're never the ones to fight or to die

And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

                    

How many think it's a good idea to Lean Forward while BO is Stumping from his Loins and Biden is Giving us the Full Load?

“Some of us look for the way in opium and some in God, some of us in whisky and some of us in love. It is all the same way and it leads nowhither.”

―
    W. Somerset Maugham,
    The Painted Veil