You didn build that !

skicat2001 wrote: Thats why I like the death penalty or laws here in Texas. You kill someone here in TX, you dont go to the back of the line, there is an EXPRESS lane for ya. "Do the crime, Do the Time"!!

How does your imaginary friend (your god) feel about your love of killing people? I missed the part in the gnarley book about "thou shall not kill, unless someone engages in a behavior that you don't like".
OK, so you have now stated that you do believe in killingpeople as long as they don't agree with you, or they do something that pisses you off, or your president erroneously says they possess something you don't want them to have (Iraq WMD), or if someone comes to your door to take your guns away...........
States have convicted the wrong person many times, and have executed a number of them.
You have some very strange opinions.

You say you are Christian, but reject "Christian values" when they are in conflict with your opinions.

You say you respect unborn life, but you want to kill those who do bad things.

You say entitlements are bad and a waste of tax dollars, but they are your only form of support, both medically and financially, and you don't pay taxes.

You say others are scamming the system by having a car you don't approve of while they are receiving government benefits, yet you are saving for a ski boat while I am paying your bills. I can only assume you also have a vehicle to tow it or you would be saving for that as well.

You say that a cell phone is an un- necessary luxury for someone collecting benefits, yet you communicate freely with a computer, internet access, and most likely, phone service.

You thank your god for providing you with the strength and the miracle of being on the road to recovery from your illness, but you fail to acknowledge that if he existed and cared about people he would not have allowed you and millions of others to suffer.

You drive a car while receiving benefits, yet you chastise others for doing the same.

This last one is just a long shot, but I would put odds on you spending some of my tax dollars on the Romney campaign.

You are a hypocrite on a magnitude of unimaginable proportions. It is a trait I commonly see in people who profess to have religious convictions.

Riley wrote: Why do states convict the wrong person many times? Shoddy police work or intentional framing?

Police and states don't convict anyone, juries do. If you want answers, pick up a book on the subject and read it. You may learn something.

Riley wrote: [QUOTE=john b] States have convicted the wrong person many times, and have executed a number of them. Your words not mine. It's the jury's fault if they wrongly convict someone based on the evidence the police and State present?

ABSOLUTELY! The jury has the duty and responsibility of weighing the evidence presented by the prosecution against the evidence presented by the defense and rendering a verdict.
As far as this discussion is concerned, who cares shed the fault lies, the objective is not to convict an innocent man, but even more so, not to murder one.

How foolish of the jury to trust the cops!

d/a wrote;
You are a hypocrite on a magnitude of unimaginable proportions. It is a trait I commonly see in people who profess to have religious convictions.

d/a, can you pick him out of a line up, i can't.

    When you‘re sworn to uphold the Constitution ,or serve a warrant, sworn in court or or… it means NOTHING to someone who believes in nothing!

   "hypocrite" - hypocrite, if i looked up that word in a dictionary i'd see your picture or (internet billy) your in there twice.

     blast me if you want i've go big shoulders.

   This is a hot button topic, but darn d/a    

   

Riley wrote: How foolish of the jury to trust the cops!

That is a truly ignorant statement. I am surprised it came from you.
It really doesn't matter to me, or any of us who will serve you without bias regardless of your views. With that statement you have also entered camp hypocrite. You profess to be a citizen who respects and cares about the country. You say the pledge of allegiance, sing the star spangled banner, take off your hat at the passing of an American flag, and probably have a flag somewhere, most likely a cheesy sticker on you bumper. Yet you reject what this country stands for, the rule of law, and any respect for the constitutional authority given those who hand you your "freedom" on a sterling silver platter. Six police officers I have worked with have been shot on the job, and I am now a "disabled police officer"due to an attempted arrest that didn't go according to plan. We dedicated our lives to protect the constitution and enforce the rule of law in our country, and asked for nothing more than a paycheck every two weeks.
There are really only two choices when it comes to your country.
You can be a respect the constitution and the laws enacted by the people that govern conduct and protect life and property. OR
You can tear the country apart by refusing to accept the principles of law and the respect for those who take an oath dedicate their life to preserving it, regardless of their personal views and opinions. I presume you are teaching your children the same lack of respect for you country, constitution, and laws as you displayed by your statement.

Wow John, for a pot stirrer you shure get pissy when other are obviously doing the same.

Riley,
I have never lied on the stand and personally know of no officer that has. I am sure it has happened, but I can't explain why.
I never said people aren't wrongly convicted I just pointed out that only the jury, not the police, prosecutor, defense, judge (in the case of a jury trial) or an expert witness convict people. A JURY CONVICTS PEOPLE.
Reports reflect witness statements, and you rely on these statements within reason. When the prosecutor says "in your report the witness said.......... If it does you say so. If you have reservations, you say so. If you have learned new information, you write a supplementary report reflecting new information.
Wow, some of you really do hate your country.

John
If romney gets elected are you going to trust him explictly or be a "country hater".

OverMyHead wrote: John If romney gets elected are you going to trust him explictly or be a "country hater".

It is almost a certainty that if someone asks you a question and offers you two answers to choose between the question cannot be answered meaningfully.
OMH, are you still molesting your children and beating your wife? That is just an example of course.
Generally, the police I know trust no one personally. As the President of the United States we trust and respect the office he holds, just like I trust and respect the police. There is not one officer I know who would not give his or her life to protect the President or any other elected office holder, regardless of their personal opinions. Police respect the office and the institution it stands for. It is irrelevant who hold that office. The office IS the United States of America and I take my oath seriously.

62 wood wrote: I had started typing all sorts of responses to jb and his slams on Christians, .. Right now as a one, I think silence is the best.

Sorry to those of you who legitimately believe and practice your beliefs. I believe it shouldn't matter what I think, these points are only for discussion.
I thought some of you Christians might agree with me about those who profess to be a good Christians, but then set a bad example. In my opinion real Christians should distance themselves from people who claim to protect babies while murdering doctors, bombing clinics, belittling my beliefs and trying to impose yours on me and my family in the name of their faith. It would be a sad day when people are not allowed to practice their faith. That goes for ALL faiths though, not just Christianity.

john b wrote: 62 wood wrote: I had started typing all sorts of responses to jb and his slams on Christians, .. Right now as a one, I think silence is the best. Sorry to those of you who legitimately believe and practice your beliefs. I believe it shouldn't matter what I think, these points are only for discussion. I thought some of you Christians might agree with me about those who profess to be a good Christians, but then set a bad example. In my opinion real Christians should distance themselves from people who claim to protect babies while murdering doctors, bombing clinics, belittling my beliefs and trying to impose yours on me and my family in the name of their faith. It would be a sad day when people are not allowed to practice their faith. That goes for ALL faiths though, not just Christianity.

John,
What kind of responses do you expect when you call MY BOOK, The Bible a gnarley book or a comic? That, my friend,(btw, right now the word" friend" is purely my Christian realtionship with you) is taken offensively by me and obviously others here as well.

I had started going thru some various Bible passages to respond to your earlier post to skicat, but whats the use? At this point,you dont want to beleive.

You tuely can not see the difference between killing a baby via abortion and condeming a man on death row? (btw, do a search for how an abortion is done, esp. late term, if you dont know...I'm pretty sure you already do tho)


As Christians, we almost always get thrown into that "hate monger" and "hypocrite" basket when we don't go along with the world on some of the moral issues of today.


   

Wow, this thread has really gotten out of hand, hate to see that.


Bottom line, all you on the O'ther team, remember to get out and vote on Wednesday!!

quinner wrote: Wow, this thread has really gotten out of hand, hate to see that. Bottom line, all you on the O'ther team, remember to get out and vote on Wednesday!!

Quinner,
first statement... I agree.

second statement , being from the Chi-town area, you forgot to add....
"Vote early and vote often!"

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Our president today said "voting is the best revenge". Revenge against who? What kind of a president advocates some of his citizens getting revenge on others??? The most divisive one ever I guess!!! Tomorrow can not get here fast enough.