You didn build that !

Bakchose wrote:     It's time that americans flip the m in me.

Where is a vomiting emoticon when you need one. There we go.

eric lavine wrote: these days make us stronger, I realized years ago that life was pretty easy, you gotta buckle down and not reflect on days gone by, the formula to success is pretty simple, don't make 10 grand one day and spend 15 the next, when times are good people strap themselves, bigger house, 2 car payments, 6 maxed out credit cards, we got pretty use to that style of living, and when its time to buckle down and trim some fat tear drops appear and we look for someone or something to put the blame on, we get greedy real greedy, life is short and if were lucky we will see 70 years old. I firmly believe that Obama was left with what I would consider a depression, he really did pull us out of something that could have been much, much worse and he was precise on bailing GM out, pulling us out of Iraq and almost out of Afghanistan, killing Osama, many many things accomplished in 4 years, he walked in with 10 trillion in the red.....you ever get behind on a house payment? it takes three times the amount of energy to catch up, I feel he was left with a bag of shet. Im not gloating at all here or being a poor winner, but I can see a quality and genuine personality in the guy. black, red yellow we all fall in that category somewhere and if you think of him as anything other than American I would consider you a true racist, Im way beyond calling a spade a spade because in some form we are all from somewhere else, unless you came from this land, I really would rather give my money away to some poor family where it may do some good than to fuel a rich group to fuel A yacht. Sure there are people that take advantage of the system, I probably have sometime in my life at one point. but GD, the rich in this country, the ones way beyond you and me, do really use the system and make the rules to benefit themselves and their friends, im ranting here and and as you all know my mother passéd last week, she flourished in her lifetime but did have some health problems, she left over 100k in hospital bills, she worked hard all of her life, raising 3 boys on her own, healthcare was starting to spiral out of control in the 80's at that's where I realized something is wrong with the system but no president would touch on the healthcare crises, I feel that living in the most powerful richest country in the the world that HC should not be a privilege, the more money you have the better HC you get, We all have stacks of bills on our kitchen counter to pay for healthcare and we emphasize dumping trillions into defense and we don't even blink an eye... I know most of you are Rominians but we got 4 more and I really think we are heading forward and not behind. im just babbling and I am not here going ha ha ha, there is a lot of good in this guy and you need to give him a chance

Nice!   Sweet, really.     Are you a DIG BOY too?   


Seriously Eric,   that is awesome!   If you, (all CCF'ers), can't relate to that, you are so blinded by rhetoric, it hurts us all.

D/A likes it very much, Waterdog.

One thing is certain Chris, he's got his 1% card stamped

CQ

   25% want a hand out. +
   
   25% want to give it to umm. =

   I'm screwed !!!

Would love to hear from the self employed here, those trying to create what O promises, jobs and security.

CQ,

I my haste I didn't mention $2500 deductable
and the first $500 in meds a year (this year)

This year my medical is taken out before taxes
next year after taxes.

Oh I savin' a ton on money!!!

Show me blue team - PLEASE !!!

my HC skyrocketed way before Obama was a household name, what do we do? let it keep rolling the way it is or do something about it and just keep complaining?

Eric Maybe no way for a dem, but Reagan inherited worse and had his recovery much further along at this point. You don't need to keep making excuses for him. Excuses are his strength area.

The situation will get worse unless there are structural changes, look at the debt info I posted a few pages back, look at the 1 percenters, look at the 47 percenters. Obama will make it worse, Romney would have made it worse, look at congress, these guys don't care. They say they do, but their actions speak differently.

Obama care is a joke, it will hurt the very people it calims to help, my wife works part time at a small company (no benefits for her) They offer very nice health care coverage for thier full time employees, the employee pays very little for the premiums and the out of pocket for the coverage is very low, this costs the company 8 to 9 thousand per employee, they have been informed that their costs will rise to about 15 thousand per employee under the AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT! They will no longer offer coverage.

Really? Mr President, show me real growth, the bailouts bailed out Wall Street and the UAW, the stimulus money went into the same old boy network it always had, the green energy money went down a hole to feel good start ups who knew they had no viable business plan to interest real investors. Everything you have done has been sand bags on top of the failing dike. When the dike fails (it will) the flood of crushing debt will wipe out the middle class that you expected to pay for all of it.

The Federal debt and unfunded future federal obligations is over 60 trillion dollars. (GAO numbers) add another 4.2 trillion in state debt, and at least 2.2 trillion in state and local unfunded pension liabilities. 70 trillion divided by 100 million taxpayers (some of those get more in benefits than they pay in taxes so the number is really smaller) is 700,000 per taxpayer, right now, today, and getting worse by the minute.

Show me some leadership Mr. President.

Show me some real leadership, the courage to confront these problems in a real and meaningful way

Start by hiring thousands of Immigration employees, invite millions of educated, motivated immigrants to come take part in the american dream. That would a stimulus for real growth.

Hire thousands of energy geologists to MAXIMIZE the energy resources under our feet, on state and federal lands which belong to all of us, you can put a gas well in my back yard! That would be stimulus for real growth.

Put a plan in effect to cut all spending, including entitlement spending, means test, or make cuts incrementally over time. Show the private sector that they can come do business here without worrying about being the next Greece, or future confiscatory tax rates. That would be a stimulus for growth!

I have seen NO leadership, only pandering.

But, that type of ownership is really only the "bundle of rights". All land in the US really belongs to the government as they can confiscate any tme they want to. Let China buy Alaska for 20 trillion. They can apply our debt to the down payment. With a balanced budget amendment we'd be free of current and future debt.

I would like to see Senator Marko Rubio out of Florida run next.

62 wood wrote: john b wrote: The private sector has already done that. According to the US Department of Agriculture, Fourteen percent of the cropland and 27% of pasture and other agricultural land also has foreign ownership. I couldn't find stats on commercial and industrial property, but there is a good bit of foreign ownership it that as well. I wonder if the foreign ag owners get a piece of this pie ? This happens to be one of the farms in our area getting a "little" subsidy. Appears they are not having problems with cash flow.

I don't think the program differentiated between foreign and domestic ownership, but only because I can't find any information. It is a question for someone more knowledgeable. I do know that the large corporate farms take full advantage of the programs, it significantly lowers risk in their investments, something you can't take advantage of in your business. It was meant to assure our source of food, not subsidize huge corporate investors. I agree its time to visit this program again.

Let me add that I know of a person who has bought two farms in the past 15 years and he told me he has paid almost nothing for them. I don't know for sure if the story is accurate, or if he is bragging. He is an antique tractor collector and was looking for a place to keep his tractors. He bought a dairy farm, gutted the huge old dairy barn and renovated it, poured a new concrete floor and it is now a beautiful old white barn that he kept his tractor collection in. He has sold most of them and collects muscle cars now. He said he rented out the farmhouse and other buildings on the property, leased out some of the farmland is is paid subsidies for not growing on the rest. He bought a second farm this way too. This guy told me that his total cost to own each farm is under $500 per month including mortgage, and most of that cost is insurance. It is a far cry from my cousin's hog farm that I got to work on in the summer when I was a kid.

I am sure many are aware, but you business owners out there. There is a stiff penalty for not providing insurance to your employees. 2 grand as pop. Or just hire a bunch of part timers with no penalties. This is so unfair to our job creators out there. Un-contistitutional