Property Lines/Neighbors

you might also check in with your title company ( if you had title insurance) to see what the legal description of your property is and when it was surveyed last.   you might be able to reengage the original surveyor much cheaper than getting a new survey.   Your local realtor might have some ideas for you also.

nautique frk wrote: I am a firm beliver in fences !! Keep the idiots out and let them KNOW where your property is !

This is true except when your neighbor puts a fence up on your property!!!

Dreaming wrote: You'd better re-think that survey now....   In realestate law, there is such a thing as a hostile take over... if your neighbor improves on your land and you don't do anything about it, he will own it after a certain period of time.    It's called "Adverse Posession". also, if the contractor uses your property as an easment, if you don't request that the easment be on your neighbor's property, the easment can become permanent also.     Yikes... I guess the saying stands that good fences make good neighbors.

In Michigan, it takes 15 years of maintaining a property to claim Adverse Possession. And even after that, it is very difficult to uphold.

I am for the survey. Bad neighbors are still bad neighbors even behind a good fence. I once paid 5 or 6 kids to pick goat heads and gave them each a bucket. I racked them on some old window screens and dried them. The next spring I put them in a broadcast spreader and applied to neighbors river rock front yard that they drove thru my drive and yard to install.

I think I got about 90% germination!

Cya Bob

Dreaming wrote: You'd better re-think that survey now....   In realestate law, there is such a thing as a hostile take over... if your neighbor improves on your land and you don't do anything about it, he will own it after a certain period of time.    It's called "Adverse Posession". also, if the contractor uses your property as an easment, if you don't request that the easment be on your neighbor's property, the easment can become permanent also.     Yikes... I guess the saying stands that good fences make good neighbors.

This is good advice.

My grandma just went through a property line issue with her loud-mouth neighbor at her property in Northern Wisconsin. Waterfront property is highly expensive and worth protecting. You NEVER want to give up an INCH of it. Here is what my grandma was faced with:



As you can see (kinda) the two fence posts represent the property line. If you follow that line into the water, you can see that a large portion of their pier is on my grandma's frontage (including the entire thing at the end). Then, they would park their pontoon boat next to the pier...so the entire pontoon was on her frontage.

Needless to say this didn't fly with her. She first asked them to move it, to which they swore at her and basically told her to buzz off. So, she had that line surveyed. To verify the location of one lot marker they had to find two other lot markers. This cost over $800.00. BUT, once it was done, we had legal proof that they were violating the lot line...and had sufficient right to do this:



It was a lot of money...but Granny is very happy she had the survey done...because now there is a legal record that they are in violation of her lot line...

And sorry for the huge pics...

Adverse posession probably varies from state to state, but in Maine, if you allow someone to use your property, it can't be taken by adverse possesion. They have to use it against your will.

If they have metal tube like spikes, driven into the ground?

THEN get a metal detector... I have had the same promlem with my NAB.

He Pulled all the wood markers up after I had it done,,That is only the start of my problems with this FOOL!

Yes, it will only be the begining. My advice is dont let it consume you. There is 'that guy' on every lake.

Speaking of Cams. Ours has a guy who puts up trail cams to "catch" the neighbors using an old county road runs along his property down to the lake front. Families have used this road since the lake was made. He is just one of those guys where the best part of him is flushed every morning.

For sh*ts and giggles ever few weeks, my brother and I go over and remove the flash cards from the cameras. We take them home and load them up with the internets most god awful and worst REMOVEography. Then we replace them.

He now has cameras watching his cameras now. We get those too.

I cannot even imaging the conversation he has with the police showing them his "evidence" that someone keeps messed with his cameras.

If you have a printed survey map, it will have everything marked and will have a legend of what is in the ground (pipe, pin, nail, etc). Survey map should be filed. In NY you can obtain copies from the real property office at the county clerks office. If you are doing investigative research, you can also get you neighbor's map. It's all public information. When I used to survey, if there was not already a corner marker, we set new ones. What is visible is the little plastic cap with the surveyors name. What you can't see is the 3' length of 1/2" rebar that is driven into the ground. Lake property we always marked at the high water point.

David