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storm34
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Posted: December-17-2009 at 4:46pm |
Note to self...always take your pontoon out before going on a business trip! We didn't get around to it so it's staying on the lift this winter. I tried for a half a day to break it out of the cove but only got about ten feet out and it got dark. Not the best pics but you get the point!
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Hollywood
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Looks like fun! Are you going to leave the vinyl on? Be very careful removing it now, I hope it doesn't crack on you.
I can tell by those pics you are not getting that boat easily. We had to break about 75' of 1/4" ice at the ramp to get the pontoon out one year. The trailer went about half way onto the ice before it broke through. I rammed the ice with the pontoons from the other side, got stopped a few times and had to back up and go at it again. It was fun to get to say "ramming speed" while driving a boat! I know this isn't the best way to go about the situation, but if you'd seen this rig you wouldn't have bothered breaking it by hand either. |
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storm34
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Not too sure what were going to do with the Vinyl. The lake is frozen solid now so I may wait for a sunny day and get a few guys and see if we can lift it off without rolling it.
I couldn't get the boat turned around to try the "ramming speed" approach. I guess that will have to wait till spring! |
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Morfoot
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You guy's can KEEP IT! However I'd take a little bit of that white stuff. We're supposed to get 1-2" of rain the next two days. Never has a chance to dry out around here before we get more. Greg and Amy might soon be able to step out their back door and in to the pumpkin patch before too long.
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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Hollywood
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Wow, much has changed since I visited. They were driving the mower down the dock! |
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8122pbrainard
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I never had to break ice with a pontoon but did several times with the 14' Alumacraft getting to the duck blind. WOT on the 25 and a person in the bow jumping up and down makes a pretty decent ice breaker. One thing you do need are extra shear pins!!!
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harddock
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If you can leave the lift in all winter with no damage I guess the pontoon will be fine but I wouldn't leave the canopy on with any snow load. If I left my lift in during the winter the ice would bend it like a pretzel. My stuff comes out around labor day.
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TRBenj
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^^^What Kevin said^^^
...except we leave our stuff in until Columbus Day. |
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harddock
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Tim, You have more help. It's just me & Blake and a Jeep taking out ours. When he gets older I'm sure it will stay in longer.
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Hollywood
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It's OK, you're on Pete's schedule.
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tullfooter
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Hey, Fozzie Bear
Many around here leave their boats on the hoist, if there is no threat of ice shift (not me). When I was young, we had a late start and had to break a two mile path to get our I/O out of the water. Two years later, my dad brought home a crane to get it out, after the block cracked. I learned a lot from my Dad; some good, some not so good. |
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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
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75 Tique
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8122pbrainard
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Chris, Mine would be bent up as well. I have enough problems with the boathouse but you sure can't pull it out!! I've seen some pretty big disasters when people don't understand the pressure the ice produces and leave lifts and such in over winter. You had better look into a aerator NOW! |
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Hollywood
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It was my turn this year. Two straight days of below freezing highs and single digit lows froze up the corner bay where I was parked. If the wind were going the other direction, it would have remained open.
It took about an hour just to get the engine started due to slow cranking (original weak starter), cold battery and cold oil. As usual at this time of year I drain the water after each ski. Even without the ability to tilt the nose down, with the 1:1 trans and the engine angled back I did not experience any damage. I previously removed the hanger on the front of the engine for the trans cooler -> raw water pump hose. This allows me to only have to remove the hose from the rwp to drain the trans cooler, since there is little room in this area with the engine cradle and blower in the way (knuckle buster). Well, the little water left in the hose at the bottom did freeze and I wasn't pulling any lake water in when the engine got running. After 10 minutes with the hose sitting on my car engine the ice thawed enough to fall out. Once we got it running driving through the ice was quite unusual. Thickness was about 1/2"+ and I had to power through 200' to get to open water. No gel damage whatsover. I could feel the ice squeezing the gunnel at my feet. Towing the lift up on shore was also a problem since my "one tire fire" was doing a lot of spinning on the frozen ground, but finally got there without the need for a 4x4 vehicle. |
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phatsat67
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Hahaha, Excellent. Should have gave it a snort of motor cocaine to get it to crack off.
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Morfoot
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Oh yeah....that looks and sounds like a whole lotta fun. I'd be cringing the whole time hearing the sound of ice crunch on the hull.
We actually got into the 20's last night and we won't break 50 today... It's a little cold out. I did trek out to Athens, GA to catch the UGA game which was a night game. Temps got to low 40's during the game and it was a bit breezy but I did stay til the end og the game. Funny thing was that some of the the FAN postings on FB that were fussing cause it was cold.. I had to laugh cuz they don't KNOW the meaning of cold until they talk to New England area Fans and Packer Fans. THEY'VE got it cold. My hat's off to those guy's but I'm sure they are insulated in more ways than one. |
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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storm34
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Looks like a fun adventure. After all that work did you take a ski ride on the way out?
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Riley
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Lakes are skimming over here as well. Hollywood, Santa needs to bring you some Collinites for Christmas.
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Hollywood
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Well then Santa better bring someone to apply and remove the Collinite as well..
No skiing, was in a rush to get back and pull the lift and pier. Barely made it by dark and my buddy had limited time to help. There were several times throughout the afternoon that I thought I'd be finishing the job today. |
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75 Tique
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HW - I guess you get this year's how to treat an "old tub" award.
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Smithfamily
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Thanks for the posts. I am blessed!
Picked up an old Air Chair, RBM, last week and had to try it. Braved the low 70's lake water and complained. Now I feel guilty. Only kidding. About the guilt part. Hey HW, what's the secret of this device? Came real close to getting up, but no cigar. Maybe the water was too cold to plane? |
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IAughtNaut
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Not to threadjack, but I spent about a year and a half being defeated by Joe's air chair before I figured out how to get on top of it. There are two things you need to know-
1. Butt forward. If its hanging off the back at all you can't stabilize the thing...once you think you're forward enough, move up 3 more inches. 2. Skiers instincts are not your friend, you have to let it do the work. Get the tip as high out of the water as you can, shoulders back, arms straight and level and let the boat pull you forward. Any adjustment or attempt at balancing yourself will knock it off kilter. Once you get up, lean forward. Chest to your knees is your happy place, that will keep you from firing into the sky. At some point you will lean back and that thing is going to fire you into the sky. Leaning back takes it up, leaning forward takes it down. No shame in riding with the ski on the water until you get a feel for it. Water temperature shouldn't have anything to do with it, but that fin will mow down some weeds if its not deep enough. |
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quinner
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Hey Jerry, start a new Hydrofoil thread and I would be happy to pass on what I have learnt, lol. They are a blast!!
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phatsat67
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Quinner prefers things that strap on.
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storm34
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We did a bit of ice breaking a few nights ago with the Sweetwater! Same pontoon as the OP, Dad barely got the boat off the lift but once it was headed in the right direction he made it with ease. The main body of the lake was frozen the next morning so it looks like my brother-in-laws pontoon is staying on the lift for the winter.
Can't tell in this picture but the trailer broke up the ice around the ramp before we loaded it for the winter. Proof of the white stuff in IA. |
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phatsat67
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The Durango is just doing work.
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OverMyHead
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-9 yesterday morning. Starting the 351 in the work van sounded nothing like firing up the ski nautigue at green lake. -12 this AM and winter does not even start till the 21st. Why TF do I live in Minnesota? Global warming is nothing but a sweet fantasy!
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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