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    Posted: December-22-2013 at 1:04pm
I searched and hadn't seen anything here and since we tend to be a spirited debate group I though we could try to discuss The Phil Robertson phenomena that is out there these days. I believe A&E could have put a disclaimer at the beginning of each episode separating themselves form the views and opinions of the cast. Now it has been all over the place and looks as if the show may go away or at least go away from A&E. Thoughts?
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Other than the Osbournes I never have watched a reality show.Got enough reality right here. A couple of years ago we downsized our cable as low as we could go,just tired of Comcast but have no other option. When we go over to Inlaws who have full cable all we seem to see is reruns of shows that we have already seen. In Florida we only have an antenna,if I'm going to watch reruns cozy,me,antenna tv is good enough
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I think everyone needs to settle down. Both sides. Straight or gay. Religious or not. Life is better when you just a peaceful, giving and loving person. You don't have to agree with others opinions or lifestyle just shut you fn mouth up. Live your life and have fun. Peace brother Peace. It's a good thing. Bones.
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I've never watched the show either, but read his comments. I got to think it was him stating the obvious that offended A&E. I was amazed to find out that family has made $400M on their line of products.
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I'm all for phil. He is just speaking his opinion. Last I checked it is still legal to speak freely. Seems the Christians have ignored being slandered( in a time where the gays blacks Muslims etc hasn't) to the point now when they do speak up they become enemy # one. I'm glad I'm where I am in my age, when I'm dead and gone this country will probably have gone to hell.
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If you listen to the full interview it was pretty light hearted. Phil was asked a specific biblical question and gave a fairly accurate response based on the old testament. This was not an angry Baldwin making gay slurs. Apparently A&E does not recognize freedom of religion and expression. At least not for Christians. I am amazed at the intolerance that gets displayed in the name of "tolerance".
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just what in hell do they think he would say?
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I seldom watch television and avoid reality shows like a bad virus.
I don't understand the controversy. The knucklehead made a statement and his employer didn't agree. Is there anyone out there who believes that a company should be obligated to employ someone who disagrees with their philosophy? Phil's statement sounds like he prefers women because they have more places to hide the sausage than a man.

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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Is there anyone out there who believes that a company should be obligated to employ someone who disagrees with their philosophy?


John, put some shoes on the other foot and see if that one holds up, then get back to us.

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Phil had every right to say what he said. A&E has every right to fire him. I doubt he really cares. We will see who caves first. If A&E feels so strongly about the LGBT community, they should never air another episode of Duck Dynasty. So, I think they are a bit hypocritical. I think I heard there is DD marathon during the holidays. They sure like the profits ole Phil brings in. But, they have to put on a good show for the LGBT crowd at the same time.

More power to Phil for speaking his mind. This country is WAY too PC. The 98% have to tip toe around and are afraid of offending the militant 2%. I say " 'D'uck "Em"!!

The liberals are oh so tolerant and accepting of diverse opinions, as long as your opinion fits their world view. If not, look out.....! Your then a bigot, homophobe, racist, etc, and they will demand you be fired, or your products be boycotted. I think this one has backfired on the liberals.   
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I'm outraged, this is McCarthyism.
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Here's the way I see this whole thing going down. A&E never said they "fired" Phil. They "suspended" him. The whole controversy has blown up and gotten a ton of media frenzy, actually increasing the shows popularity, not decreasing it. A&E looks like the good guy to all the bleeding heart liberals for suspending him, but in reality, they're going to bring him back on the show in a month or so and it will be bigger than before. WIN-WIN for everyone, especially A&E who will be raking in higher ratings than ever. Hmmmph.
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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

just what in hell do they think he would say?


I think they wanted him to "duck" the question.
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Originally posted by bhectus bhectus wrote:

Here's the way I see this whole thing going down. A&E never said they "fired" Phil. They "suspended" him.


I thought they suspended him INDEFINITELY. I would consider that fired.
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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

I'm outraged, this is McCarthyism.


It sort of is. He's being labeled a hater by the PC left. God help us if they ever figure out a way to read our minds, or worse yet, predict our thoughts.
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Cracker Barrel restaurants/country store had pulled all the DD stuff off their shelves to show sympathy for the politically correct set. After their customers said "Duck You" to Cracker Barrel, all the DD stuff is back on the shelves, along with a big apology for offending their customers when they backed the PC set.

I am glad to say, I am lifting my boycott of Cracker Barrel. I now find their position one of tolerance, and acceptance, and look forward to spending my hard earned money there again.

However, I am still boycotting A&E until they change their stance. They have deeply offended me, and I am more outraged than John B. at a McCarthy Anti-Communism Festival held in the basement of a Baptist Church!
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Charlie Sheen is taking a bit of heat for writing this.....

hey Mallard brained
Phil Robertso!
you have offended and hurt so many dear friends of mine,
who DO NOT have the voice or the outreach that I do.
well news flash
shower-dodger,
I will speak loudly and clearly for ALL of them.
so,
just when your desperately sub evolved ass thought the pressure was off,
you are now in the crosshairs of a MaSheen style media
beat down.
(I'll try to keep the big words to a minimum as not to confuse you)

your statements were and are
abhorrently and
mendaciously unforgivable.

the idea that you have a job
outside of dirt-clod stacking
is a miracle.

the only 'Dynasty' you are attached to might be the
re-runs of that dated show.

the only thing you should ever be in charge of building is a hole in the ground the exact size of your head.
perhaps your beard would fit as well if you plucked out the
army of scabies and
bull weevils sequestered deep in it's sarcophagus of dander and weasel pelts.

shame on you.
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brain donor I've ever known.

when the gators and Egrets
kick you out of their
hovel,
you need to make serious amends to those you have
radically offended.

on the eight day
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I'm pretty sure YOU were the scattered dross I then used to light a fire and
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Andy Gump.

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More "tolerance" from the left. Talk about a guy living in in a glass house and throwing stones. Phil is adopting bi-racial kids and Charlie is in court while they try to find someone responsible enough to care for his.
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The loss of the Duck Dynasty series is heartbreaking to the 2,000,000 Syrian refugees who had planned to pass the winter watching new episodes with their families. Said one refugee "It was inspirational to watch an unfaithful alcoholic with a birds nest on his face talk about whatever it is he talks about". Parents dreams for their children were dashed when they realized that the reality TV show they believed they were entitled to once they reached the USA may never materialize. A collection plate was passed around the refugee encampment in an attempt to make the TV show stars whole again. The sentiment of the camp was expressed by one refugee who said "we have no food, heat, medical care or shelter. The only thing that was holding our family together was watching Duck Dynasty, and now we may have to watch reruns. I don't know how we will survive the winter now". Another said "Phil's wisdom will be missed around the camp. Many of us never realized that we should only park the beef bus in tuna town till he came along and educated us. Who would have thought that someone who looked like that wouldnt approve of Beastiality?" It was suggested by some that The long hair around Phil's mouth was suggestive of that part of the female anatomy he spoke so glowingly of, although some said they would prefer it if Phil's face went Brazilian. Said one fan "sometimes I notice that Phil's beard shines like a glazed donut so I know that he and the little lady have a good relationship".
It is so tragic to think that the last sliver of joy has been ripped from these refugees lives with the cancellation of Duck Dynasty. We should be proud that we have the principles and priorities here in the USA to demand justice for the biggest Ducker in his fight to spread hatred of one because of their beliefs and lifestyle.
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Do you think Fill is just a decoy??

John, waddle the duck are you quaking about??
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Ok since I started this. here is my $.02. I do watch the show, find it entertaining, funny, and take it for what it is, a TV show. Now Phil Robertson who has a somewhat interesting past has been preaching or giving speeches which include his views on life, religion, morals and of course his duck calls. These are not polished or eloquent but they are his views. A&E knew of these when they hired him to do a show. It is theorized that A&E thought their audience would get a big laugh out of these backwoods redneck. What they did not expect was the following and the reasoning behind the following. That being said while Phil did not use this show to preach they also refused to be vulgar and swear and fight amongst themselves, as A&E suggested they do. This information comes from a video interview done with the family. A&E is trying to control the content of the show. A&E sent a publicist to the GQ interview as a go between and it was A&E that broke the story of these terrible things Phil said. Again this is theory but it is believed A&E did this to gain more control over the show and suspending Phil to appease their gay complaining viewers. Apparently this did not work so well for A&E and for Cracker Barrel who jumped in and pulled product. An outpouring of support through millions of nasty letters were received and they reinstated Phil before he was even off the air, and products returned to the shelves.

Whether this was the publicity stunt of the year or just some hastily made some bad decisions. The show is back and life goes on.

Whether you are a fan or not, religious or not, gay accepting or not it made major media coverage, took away from world and domestic problems and in itself entertaining. It most likely will turn into Millions for both A&E and the Robertson family.
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Greatest irony is I think theyv used a "morality" clause to suspend him.
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Didn't he pretty much just paraphrase what the bible says with regards to homosexuality? and isn't it the gay stance that is causing the most hubbub? If so, isn't A&E taking a stance against what Christians believe to be God's word, the Bible? So the Bible is wrong and offensive? if that's what we're really talking about here, why doesn't someone just speak up and says so?
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Well put Steve and yes that is what I think.

A Christian stands up for what he believes in and he is strung up for it. If we had a White History Month or a Straight Pride Parade in downtown Atlanta then it's racist. How about a White Miss America?

The rules are not the same for Christians. Look at the Christmas Holiday and how society is trying to push the reason for the season out by changing lyrics to songs, calling it everything else then what it is but ohhhhhh the retailers want to cash in on the CHRISTmas holiday.

Did A&E ever think about why the sucess of the show is because Christians by the millions watch it? With all the crap IMHO thats on TV a reality show about a Family is on that is about as Country Christian as they come and end the show with the family gathered round the dinner table thanking God for the blessings that he has given them? C'mon man really? What did they think he was gonna say when asked about it?

Whether or not they did it on purpose to boost the ratings I don't think they did but you never know. Money is the root of all evil and History has shown it. All you gotta do is look no futher than Atlanta based Chick-fil-a... How'd the boycott from the gay and lesbian society work out? Drove them out of business didn't it? Ohhhh yeah, you still can't find one open on Sunday and I doubt you EVER will because they believe you should be in church on Sunday and spend the day with family.
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I don't get it.
A&E is paying the folks to be what they are on the show and hate it when they say exactly that in an interview???
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charlie sheen sounds like the perfect spokesman for the left.
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A&E bought a duck but they wanted a turkey so they tried everything to fatten the duck up to be more like a turkey. Now they found the duck lays golden eggs and is worth more than millions of turkeys. Too bad for A&E stuck with the duck. I say to all these PC companies GO DUCK YOURSELF!
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Well, that didn't take long. A&E has "reinstated" Phil Robertson from "indefinite hiatus". By indefinite, I guess they mean one week. I guess they showed him!!

BUT....A&E will be airing a series of PSA's(public service announcements) promoting tolerance, inclusion, and all things politically correct. Yes sir, that's what they are going to do by golly! They are getting really tough now!

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A&E was winging it and proved themselves a little duck blind. No wonder people called fowl. Now they just look daffy.
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