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gun-driver
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Huh, what....what did Pete say??? Zach can you hear him?? What did he say get a multimeter??
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Waterdog
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Everyone knows it will be louder, how do ya measure "tone". Like the way Mustang (cars) sound (to me) like their gargling water. I'm no Mustang fan but they do sound unique & cool.
The thing that I like is less joints ahhh connections in the system. |
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8122pbrainard
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Ok people it sounds like the loudness is a big factor. How loud is it? Some say loud and some say quite so I feel it's time to get the DB meter out, set it on the A scale and take the reading at transom to deck level at WOT. Then report the reading as well as what type/material exhaust you have. Many here have IR temp guns so why not a DB meter??? With the data, there won't be any more guessing.
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Hollywood
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Sounds like Tim needs one of these
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phatsat67
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Get your measuring stick out Tim?
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TRBenj
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Sorry Andy, you need the full 7' per side on a 2001. There may be a few inches to spare but 6' would leave you short for sure.
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Orlando76
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In my experience, manifold has A Lot to do with tone. Our '75 has PCM manifolds and risers and sounds bad @$$ with mega deep tone. The '76 has Escort manifolds and it's equally loud but the tone is, meh, no where as deep. Other than that, identical hose and copper pipes.
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Waterdog
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I'm not in a big hurry Tim.If I can knock it out in the next couple of weeks that's good. 6x2 =12 7x2 =14 1 foot = $18, 2 foot extra = $38, 3x18 packs of Bud Ice = $36 I'm no mathmagician but thats a good weekend |
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phatsat67
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Copper is the bomb though. The SS makes it sound more like straight pipes on a truck. Copper gives it a specific tone.
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storm34
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Nothing beats copper!
[/IMG] We threw some copper in the 78 Tique (warmed up 302) and it was a PITA as Tim mentioned. Sounds great tho!!! If you want volume and a good note, go copper. Pat swapped his mufflers out for the SS Tim listed above and it sounds better, but not nearly as good as copper IMHO. |
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Gary S
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When we were out taking pictures of my boat on the river run the Mrs said she could hear it back at Parramores
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phatsat67
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Hahah |
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Riley
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I forget exactly, but think somewhere from 28" to 32". We ended up cutting the SS pipes we bought which were 36" to about the same size. I can measure this weekend and let you know.
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oldcuda
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Riley how long are those 3" copper pipes?I was saving a set for future use but they grew legs.Think copper has a tone that can't be beat.
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TRBenj
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Installing a proper sized barbed tee into a wire reinforced cooling hose should be no big deal... unless youre attempting to do it dry, of course. A little water and some dish soap makes it about 1000x easier. Same goes for exhaust hoses onto manifolds, etc.
Wrestling an oversized copper pipe (at least 3.1" OD) into a 3" ID corrugated exhaust hose is a much bigger PITA. Trust me! Ive seen several sets of original copper pipes that are all crimped on the ends- its a real chore to get them started otherwise, but can be done. That crimping looks like it was counterproductive to exhaust flow. |
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Riley
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Copper is 3" inside diameter I believe. Correct Craft crimped them to fit the hose.
Fitting the SS tubes to the hose and getting all the lengths right was quite a fight for me. Each side took a lot longer than I expected. Straight hose isn't a bad way to go. Easier and no joints under the floor. |
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Hollywood
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^ heat and lube
Can't be much worse than installing the cold water shower T in a BFN 1.25" wire reinforced hose. OMFG that was a 2 man, 30 minute ordeal. |
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TRBenj
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Like Zach said, hose is all 3", and that is the ID. If you go with stainless tubing, that is the OD and it will match up nicely with the 3" hose. Copper pipe is sized slightly differently (possibly by ID) so it will be a bear to get installed, as the OD of the pipe is larger than the ID of the hose. |
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phatsat67
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Yup, 3.0 Corrugated. I might take a little ride tonight so I can do a measure estimate on the needed length for all rubber.
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Waterdog
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Almost started this as "loud pipes save lives"
How long is the all rubber exhaust from riser to exhaust tip? Less clamps less places to leak. Is the stock hose 3.0ID right? |
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phatsat67
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Yup, I have been on shore, inside, and behind it. Maybe I am just having brain farts today but dad's mc was way louder than the footer. I learned to deep water boom beside that footer. Done some double and single runs behind it probably 15 times or so. I won't be able to verify my thoughts anymore though as it is running 4 inch this season.
I somehow knew before I saw what HW posted was that it was going to be a reference to that shirt ha. Mark's V drive sounds like an offshore boat with those short run pipes and Stainless 45 bends in it. |
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Hollywood
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saves lives
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Riley
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We used SS pipes in our Cuda and it is not as loud as I thought it would be. It is not nearly as loud as our Malibu with 3.5" rubber hose.
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TRBenj
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The HO Indmar shouldnt have been any different than a PCM with compression in the mid 8's... if you thought it was loud, it probably was!
Have you spent any time behind Vince's boat? You notice the difference in volume when the pipes are aimed at you, either at the end of a rope or from shore. Not so much from the driver's seat. |
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phatsat67
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Oh Paul it's because yours had a hot motor ;). Swear Vince's footer is not much louder than my stock 86 mufflers.
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gun-driver
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NOT!! I went straight rubber in my '85 and I can tell you from the driver’s seat it's not too bad but in the rear seat it is obnoxiously loud. If you’re on a small lake the early morning runs are going to draw some attention real quick. |
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phatsat67
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True, I just know Vince's footer isn't much louder than Teddy's (rubber vs mufflers). Mark's boat isn't comparable because it has such a short exhaust run and 4" pipes.
Dad's MC with rubber except for the 45 degree bends was actually pretty loud. It was an HO Indmar though so maybe more compression. |
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TRBenj
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I disagree... the more metal in the exhaust, the louder it will be- but straight hose will be plenty loud. No extra stainless in our BFN, its all hose. Compression ratio and exhaust manifold material are also big contributors to volume. |
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phatsat67
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I can measure tonight if you won't be near the boat. Rubber actually makes the boats fairly quiet with no mufflers but stainless is clearly going to be much louder.
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Riley
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We've got a pair of copper tubes that came out of a 74 Skier if you're interested.
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