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erickirchey
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Hey guys I am working on my buddy's old 88 ski nautique trying to get her ready for the lake for summer the transmission went out on it two years ago I told him i would help get it going no labor just parts as long as i got a seat on the boat or free reigns to use it so he agreed! anyways we got the transmission out of the boat today and cracked her open found a few things that made me wonder if the needed to be replaced On the drive gear assembly there is some pitting in the gears is this normal or does this need to be replaced?
also on on the oil pump there is wear and looks like the metal is wearing grooves does this also need to be replaced? I have a lot of picture I am just trying to find a re-sizing software so i can upload them directly as of now i have to re-size each on manually so be patient I plan on posting all my steps and pictures along the way just for fun! Thank you for any tips or help in advance this is my first run at this but I am fairly confident I can get the job done as I am very detailed and have been reading forum and manual after manual just to prepare! |
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8122pbrainard
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Eric,
I'm sorry to say you may not get much help with the details for a Velvet rebuild here on CCfan. There have been members try to do a rebuild and only a couple have been successful. We even have several threads where so called "pro re builders" have tried and failed. Most have had theirs rebuild by Fantastic Finish Marine. Eric the original owner is a member and used to be very active on site. He has since passed the business onto his "right hand man" and as I understand is as good at the rebuilds as he was. They are not as simple as just throwing a kit in. There are plenty of idiosyncrasies. From the looks of the pictures, it sure looks like there's plenty of wear. What do the clutch plates look like? I'm sure pretty bad!! |
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baitkiller
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I am one of the few who has been successful and I wouldn't fix that one. Yes, that is exceptional wear. Mine was sitting out in a yard half full of water and didn't look that bad. From your pics the oil pump is shot and the planetary is also shot. Pony up those parts against the 700$ swap deal and I seen no sense in going any further. A milk crate makes an excellent shipping crate. |
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fanofccfan
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I had a pump that looked liked that a while back. The flywheel dampener( I think that is the term??) was bad and apparently was putting pressure where it was not supposed to be. Cleaned it up and and put in a rebuild kit and luckily it worked. That was 20 years ago and to my knowledge it is still working. But I agree with the others.....crate it.
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erickirchey
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SO I took your guys advice I found a guy in tarpon springs with a rebuilt one his dad was going to use for a project boat but could never get the engine right had paper work from the local marina on the rebuild fluid looked great so i bought it and i couldn't argue with his price of 300$!
I ordered the new damper plate it should arrive Thursday or Friday from these guys http://bpi.ebasicpower.com/p/ALTDA-106A/ Today I got a new igniton switch put in the starter and found new bolts for it went up and got two new belts from advance discount if you need the cross reference for the belts or the part numbers here ya go! Alternator #R066001 crosses to Goodyear # 15406 & Sierra # 18-15400. water pump #R066008 crosses to Goodyear # 15461 & Sierra # 18-15455. Also just to verify this is for a 88 ski nautique 2001. |
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erickirchey
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Here are some basic pics of the boat
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erickirchey
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So I am still waiting on parts so i figured i would tackle the floor while waiting we talked it over and we didn't want to go with the carpet instead lets make it look like a dock using pressure treated 2x6 and some good stain sealer and trim it with Manila Rope here is my progress so far.
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kapla
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Oh boy! You were going on the right track with the tranny, but that floor ain't good! Did you check stringer condition or sings of rot?
Are you going to leave the floor like that or plan to add carpet over it? Its your boat and you can do what ever you like but that a different approach to all rebuilts we've seen around! Get ready for some action... |
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erickirchey
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Not planing on putting carpet back down on the boat the supports are all solid and no cracks in any of the fiberglass we could walk in the boat no sagging issues it was stored under the dock on a lift with a cover most of the time. The plywood that was there was very rotten and need to be pulled as you can tell so i see no difference in using 2x6 over top instead of 3/4 plywood also this way the water seemed to run off better to the middle of the haul.
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81nautique
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Better check your local building codes, the spacing on those floor joists looks a little wide.
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JPASS
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Good job on the tranny swap. You definitely made the right decision there, but I'm afraid of what's to come with that flooring you chose.
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backfoot100
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WTF???? You do whatever you want but I question the reasoning.
So did you just remove the carpet and lay this over the glass floor? The way you have it now you've provided no access to the bilge area behind the tranny. You can't access the shaft packing gland or the rudder packing or the exhaust if you ever need to without completely removing the floor again. Is that concrete block by the gas tank? |
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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
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Hollywood
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That's going to trap a lot of water. Not good.
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erickirchey
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No it is all raised up off the glass and this is laid in place but there will be hinges for access to the spots that will need to be maintained such as rudder packing exhaust etc.
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C-Bass
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I'm confused about what plywood you are talking about already being in the boat that had to be removed, but then you mention how solid the floor is. Except for the removable cover aft of the engine, there shouldn't have been any plywood on the floor. It was glass over foam. 2x6 PT sure seems heavy. |
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ny_nautique
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LOL Alan... I also don't see concrete piers or metal hangers. Besides not being able to access the shaft and exhaust, you're also going to have a hard time fitting the observer's seat back in because the floor is now 1 1/2" taller. It's going to throw everything off as far as seating goes. If the plywood was rotten, why didn't you just replace that 3'x3' piece? |
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halfnelly
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backfoot100
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Holy Crap, I think I just peed my pants a little |
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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
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halfnelly
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Is this going to be a temporary solution to get it on the water for the summer or a permanent "fix"? |
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kapla
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nop, my guess those are the plastic rotocast bases for the rear seat! |
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Riley
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I'd put down a rubber membrane under the decking and run the boards stern to bow, like plank floors on most boats.
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phatsat67
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Insane in the membrane.
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Waterdog
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5 quarter deck boards would have been plenty. Even for the trans shipping crate. What's the plan for the wake board tower? Can't wait to see it!
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Gary S
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You bunch of nay sayers,if it was up to you guy's the Paragon's would have never been built
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cphase
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TRBenj
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I was thinking the same thing. I guess we have different definitions of "rescue". |
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cphase
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Maybe this hybrid?
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halfnelly
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CPhase, that is hilarious. Is that the optional TCT (Termite Control Tower)? Looks like it hasn't managed to attract any females.
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cphase
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I don't know why, plenty of "wood" there. |
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forvicjr
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Wheres Pete??? Thats definitely not original. Wonder if he has installed some dock foam under the decking for flotation? You know some here make bars from ski nautiques, maybe we misunderstood and hes building a nautique dock?
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