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john b
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Another 30mph and he may have made it.
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beretta5spd
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Jeff your 92 looks minty in that pic!
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He fell asleep at the wheel. From the post on reddit:
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GottaSki
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Awesome I recognize the later mustang/turbocoupe TRX rims.
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john b
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The end may be near for my ultimate tow vehicle, the Saturn Ion. I took my wife's "new" ( used rental car ) 2013 Ford Escape 2.0 4WD on my first road trip without a trailer today from Chicago to De Pere WI and back, 406 miles. This is the result of the drive there.
I had a bit of a tail wind and tried to get good mileage, setting the cruise at about 65-70 most of the time going up. On the way home I ran into a very violent thunderstorm for about 100 miles of the trip. I also couldn't keep my foot out of the gas ( it is a fun car to play with ) so I ended up with 30.7 round trip. Not bad for a 4WD SUV that is rated for towing 3,500#. I may have to get her a new one and take hers. Whats the point of driving my lemon squeezer to get good mileage when hers gets within a couple MPG. |
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C-Bass
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We just got a 2013 with the 2.0 about a month ago. I wouldn't count on getting 30mpg without a tailwind, but we have been happy with the milage especially considering the pep of the 2.0. The car has a fairly short wheelbase and doesn't weigh a whole lot so I'd be hesitant to tow anything bigger than a 17' boat, but I think power-wise it will handle it perfectly fine.
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john b
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Mine towed my friends 24' pontoon effortlessly. Much better than my Ion would. I am averaging right around 30.5 on the highway with the air on and the cruise set between 65-70. I use premium to get that little extra out of the boost. Probably only helps in high boost conditions though.
Around town it's another story. It's so peppy I like to use it. I have gotten as low as 18 but my wife averages about 23 in town. I checked a few Escape forums and found that many people say it is capable of doing better than the published figured, but few get it around town because they like to use their right foot. Some even suggested they come out with a flash that would reduce the responsiveness. Ford Racing is taking orders for a flash that that gives the Focus ST ( same engine and platform) a solid 360 pound feet of torque at 2,500 rpm and an estimated 320HP (91-93 octane required) and doesn't void the warranty. I hope they come out with a similar one for the Escape 2.0. Livernois, an aftermarket performance company, has an Escape flash for 300HP and 350 foot pound of torque, but it may or may not affect the warranty. |
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bkhallpass
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I've had an escape for 6 months, and 11K miles. The most I've ever seen
is 28.5 mpg. Average over the 11K miles has been 21.7 mpg. It's the bigger engine, 2.4 I think, and about 1/3 of the miles have been uphill driving to Tahoe. Still fine for us as the other two cars are the Yukon XL and the 4 door, 4wd Silverado. BKH |
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62 wood
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Thats cool! Would love to see that on my dash! I just bought a GMC Sierra 2500HD over the weekend. Powered by 8.1 Vortec, with the Allison 5 speed automatic behind it... something tells me I'm going to be happy with about 1/3 of those numbers... . |
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john b
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We had the 2.5 in the Escape we traded for this one. This one is just like that 2.5 only with 100HP and 100'# more. We never got exceptional mileage with that 2.5, also a 4WD. About 22-24 on the highway. The new shape probably helps.
Those new phat trucks ( Suburban, Tahoe, Expedition Escalade, ECT ) are so much better now too. More power, better mileage IF you can keep your foot out of it. You must do some really heavy work to spec a Sierra like that. It sounds like it's suited for pulling an auto transport or delivering RVs. I got a ride in a new super heavy duty GM p/u a while back. I don't know the specifics but it had a big diesel and an Allison trans ( I only know this because it had a badge on the side) it rode pretty nice MT. Better than the old P/Us I used to drive. Stiff but tight. |
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62 wood
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John, this is still an "old beater" truck, It is going to replace my existing work/plow, truck.
It's a 2001, one owner, 4x4 Standard cab/8 foot box, with 89,xxx miles and most of the "toys" ... (Power bucket seats and mirrors in my work truck!??!! ..and whats that "fuzzy stuff" on the floor? ) . I cant justify 50+G's for a new truck. Finding a nice 3/4 or 1 ton, standard cab / 8 foot box is next to impossible.... not a lot of selection in used ones. I do plan to work it, has max trailer wt. towing capacity around 14,000 lbs. Not good on mpg, I'm hearing 8 to 10 all around. But my current 97,3500 4x4 averages maybe a mile or so better, so hoping not to see much dif in fuel costs. |
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bkhallpass
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Actually, I guess I have a 2 liter turbo. We're not seeing 35mpg, that's for sure.
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john b
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Steve, I know you're a guy who needs and uses a truck. I remember the snow photos.
This is an average of what we have gotten in the approximately 5,000 miles since we got it. It includes about 1,000 miles pulling a 1,000# utility trailer, launching two pontoon boats, one wave runner, and one runabout for a total of about 300 miles. the rest is a combo of city and highway. It would not do your work around the farm and it is not intended to go off road. It has ground effects on the bottom and even the rear diff is faired with a pretty tough plastic piece. A lot of people are going to tear that stuff off trying to take them off road. The old Escape wasn't too bad in deep sand, rocks, and mud. Big difference with this one. |
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john b
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I tried pretty hard to see what I could get out of it. It will probably be the mileage record because I don't normally drive like that. It takes very light traffic, few stops, and a concentrated effort. I always use 91 or 93 premium. I'm not really sure if that affects the mileage. It makes a significant difference in the go, especially on a very hot day when the intercooler is not as effective. |
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bkhallpass
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I get it. Not sure what state you are in. Do you have a bunch of emissions control (smog) requirements? We seem to have as much of that as anyone here in California, plus a bunch of "stuff" added to our gas. I don't think that helps either. BKH |
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john b
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It is Cali compliant and we use almost exclusively E10 here. I ran two tanks of non alcohol 91 through it up in northern WI where it is available. I didn't notice any difference, but was towing the boats and stuff then. I'm just happy I don't have to put race gas in it like my other turbo car (24# boost). At $8 a gallon that adds up. I considered changing it over to E85 but then I can't go on any road trips in it because it's just not available everywhere. With the E85 cal you can't put gas in it.
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ncdoubleup
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This was my favorite tow vehicle. The ball kept pulling off the bumper when I'd do holeshots coming out of the boat ramp. The 4 mpg wasn't bad :)
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john b
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Do you still have the Kammback? Those were some great looking cars. The GT hatchback looked like a little Z28. My wife had a notchback and a friend had a hatchback GT. I spent a lot of time in them. Their styling and performance were at opposite ends of the spectrum. You seem to have solved the performance issue.
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phatsat67
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All these smaller SUVs with attractive fuel economy numbers look pretty good. I just don't think I could kick the stigma of not having a truck.
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ncdoubleup
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No, we don't have the Kammback anymore. We found out another grandson was on the way and having the boat was more practical. So we got rid of it. Loved it while we had it!
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john b
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Good for you. Family first and you should make some good memories with the boat.
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Loved Vegas. I recently read an article that said the Cosworth Vega was priced well above the Z28 and only $1000 less than the Vette. |
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79skinautique
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Finally had both boats out at the same time this weekend. Made for a good picture. |
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john b
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That is a very difficult decision I would like to have to make!
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IAughtNaut
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how long before the greenskeepers chased you off the fairway?
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The Day I picked her up. |
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IAughtNaut
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isn't it funny how many of our tow rigs match our boats on this site? Just the guys we had out this weekend, my dad, red S10, red and white SN. Morfoot, red Durango (and pickup apparently), red and white 88. Mike Hunter ordered the same graphics for his van that are on the side of his boat. And my black truck matches the black on my hull. What came first, the chicken or the boat?
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If you go back to the first page in this thread you'll see 'Melly' pulling 'Miss Scarlett'. It's an 86 C-10 that gets a whopping 10 mpg when pulling. Got much better fuel econ using my dads 2002 silverado hauling the bike and pulling the boat. Aaron....VERY nice! |
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Here is my 2013 Volkswagen Touareg that I use to tow. I drove up to Chicago about a month ago and it got 30 mpg up and 18 back towing the Riviera. It has the 3.0 liter diesel and runs like a champ. I replaced a 2008 GMC Yukon with this and I have never looked back. The back is riding a little low in the picture with the Debonnaire, I have since moved the axles forward about 6 inches on the trailer which has helped a lot. The Riviera I picked up was almost the exact same color as my Touareg too! The best thing overall is these two pictures were taken about 24 hours apart from each other. The first one is at a rest area in northern Indiana, the second is at a workshop in Seneca, SC.
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