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    Posted: June-25-2014 at 10:56pm
Hello,

I am starting to look into rewiring my 92 Sport Nautique (helm console needs a complete overhaul) and was wondering if anyone had advice on best/most economical approach.

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I did mine last year. Ran a heavier gauge ground from the engine to a bus bar under the dash. Kept the original daisy chain of grounds and added a spade fitting to each gauge and ran a heavier ground from each to the bus bar.

Also swapped out all terminal ends for new ones and made sure they were heat shrink coated.

I will more than likely run a new hot from the breaker to another bus bar this winter.

What did you have in mind as far as what you want to do? Are you having any electrical issues presently?

Some good threads
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Thanks for the quick reply. Tried replacing gauges last summer and during the install started running into all sorts of issues. Ended up scrapping the install all together after a local nautique dealership recommended I rewire the helm. The boat had original wiring that was in bad condition when it was bought. Trying to ultimately clean everything up and have all working gauges at the helm. I found some pre crimped and cut harnesses online thinking that may save me in labor costs but am not sure the best approach.
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Can you post some pics of what's currently there?

Are these harnesses made for the boat (plug and play) or is there some tweaking required?

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These are the two that I have been going back and forth on picking up.

http://www.ezacdc.com/boat-wiring-products/marine-electrical-switch-panels/panel-rewire-system/

http://boatwiringstore.com/boat-wiring/harness/
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I'm not sure how well those harnesses will work. I know under my dash there were three separate wire harness connections. You also have some interesting daisy chains behind the breaker panels.

Unless those harnesses are boat specific, you're going to have to modify the hell out of it.

Maybe if you post some pics of what your current wiring looks like, we could better help you.

I'd start simple and replace all the terminal ends and break out the volt meter to see what's working and what's not.

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If you're facing a full rewire anyway, this is a good time to get away from the daisy chains, and either re-inforce or replace with bus bars.

The daisy chain approach, is basically one long wire, goes from point to point along the dash. When you look at any connection at a switch or gauge, you're going to see two wires twisted together, and crimped into a single terminal.

Each of those double wire crimps is a junction along the chain. Kind of like a video game with a hopping frog, except the frog is tracing a line as he goes. Each time he lands and jumps again, you have a double line, half where he is landing and half where is taking off again. In your dash, he is hopping from switch to switch to gauge to gauge etc. Crazy analogy, but the best I can think of right now.

Anyway, you really want to replace all of that with bus-bars:
1.) A bus bar for the ground at the very least. Usually done as a re-enforcement first, but if you have a handle on everything, it could fully replace the daisy chain. Instead of hopping from point to point, every ground connection just goes back to the bus bar.

2.) A bus bar for the red/battery

3.) A bus bar for all the lighting positives blue or white

4.) A bus for all the purple, switches ignition sources.

From there, then there's the stuff that interfaces with the engine harness, and then the hull harness.
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I think that's a good way of explaining it Brian. We used to wire houses for telephones the same way,put the box of wire by the service panel,pull it to the farthest location and loop it into each location going back. Fast and easy. Problems came when trouble shooting. You would have to work your way back along the run disconnecting each jack to see which way the trouble was. With individual runs you could disconnect the one in trouble and go right to he spot. Took longer to install though and could be a nightmare of ends but much better.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

With individual runs you could disconnect the one in trouble and go right to he spot. Took longer to install though and could be a nightmare of ends but much better.

That's the way I wired my phones in my house but each run is clearly labeled at the buss. I remember when AT&T brought the service into the house. The "tech" said I used the wrong type of wire. Well, I've never had a problem!!!


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A lot of times you wouldn't know unless you had more than 1 line. Maybe that's why you had uverse trouble
The boss just wanted you to do the job fast, by the time it would go in trouble, he had moved on and the time it took to repair was on someone else.
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