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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Those are the ends that came with the dizzy. There is another piece they go into that clamps them to the dizzy cap. I believe my spark plug wire crimper tool has the dies for this type of terminal end. If these are the correct dies, do I strip the wire like my previous pic or do I place the supplied terminal ends unstripped and allow the crimpers to roll then ends over piercing the wire inside? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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I believe you want to "strip the wire like my previous pic." If you put them over the insulation, it's unlikely it would pierce through with enough bite to get you a good contact.
If you happen to have heat shrink tubing laying around, it wouldn't hurt to put that over the terminal end. Actually, they have a type of insulation that can actually be painted on after as well. |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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I have plenty of heat shrink tubing. Do I use the black die in the pic or the one with the colored dots? My guess would be the black die as the die seems to be more rounded and would close those posts tighter around the wire. |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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I would strip the wire to less length & have those end tangs crimp down on insulation. I think that is why they are wider.
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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There's a gap below the spade head. I could always flatten the stripped wire and shove it under the spade head and wrap the prongs around the insulated part of the wire.
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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Yeah try the black dies. Changing the terminals out is not an option? Are you familiar with Skycraft on Fairbanks? This is about the point I'd go there. I never fully understood those terminals but from my experience I think they're a poor design |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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Good point and sharp eye Chris. I didn't notice the wider set of arms. |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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I think we have some terminal ends here at work I can practice on. And yes, I am familiar with Skycraft. Love that place. I could also solder the wire to the terminals for some added strength. |
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backfoot100 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: January-03-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1897 |
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I disagree guys. Those are the only tangs for making contact with the bare wire. You crimp them on the insulation and the only contact you'll have is a few ragged strands of the wire on the spade lug itself. A marginal connection at best. You might be able to solder it after crimping in that fashion (if you know what you're doing) but then you'll heat up the insulation making the crimp marginal at best then. I would just crimp on the bare wire myself. |
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JoeinNY ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-19-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5697 |
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The crimp is definitely designed so that the pair of tangs closest to the blade crimp down on the stripped wire, preferably after being tinned, and that the second set crimp down upon the insulation providing a strain relief for the first set. Its actually a pretty tough connector to do a good job crimping with anything other than a connector specific tool set but every ignition company still seems to send them out.
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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I have regular waterproof spade connectors at the house. The only thing I would lose would be the brown clips that the terminal end goes into. I would just run each spade to the each post on the coil. It's always an option if the supplied connectors cause me issues.
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Do I need to put assembly lube or motor oil on the dizzy cam gear or does it go in dry? Directions don't mention anything about it needed lube.
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In your first photo there, what is that small device packed on the red and white cardboard?
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It's an inline spark tester. You can use the spark plug instead if you prefer, but the tester helps lessen the risk of getting shocked ![]() JP - Definitely watching your progress - I'll probably be doing this in the future too |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Yeah. It was only $10 and I figured it wouldn't hurt to add one to my toolbox. Called the manufacturer today and they said I can install the dizzy dry, but if I was concerned, a little cam lube on the gear would certainly not hurt. |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Got the swap done today. Beat the serious rain by about 2 minutes. She was a little tough to start, but once we set the idle timing at 12 she purred like a kitten. I did notice my plugs were very white. I need to adjust the carb to fatten it up. Its a 4010. Not sure which way to turn the mixture screws on the side (in or out).
Still need to clean up a few things (the coil insulation on the bell housing and some wire separators). I think it came out great. Looks like I have enough room to put the plastic cover back on, but not sure I well. I ruined the supplied tach and 12V terminal ends, so I used weatherproof ones. Oh well. I will do the write up shortly. Here are some pics: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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Congrats on getting it up and running. Looks great
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Sweet! Looking forward to seeing the write up. Congrats on completing the job. Have you done an on-the-water test yet?
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nice upgrade!
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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No water test yet. It started to rain as we finished up. I'll definitely be taking it out next Saturday for a full day of running it. Once timed properly she fired right up. Going from 3000 rpm straight to closed throttle resulted in no rpm dips or stumbles like she used to. She ran nice and smooth. Gonna fire her up today again and double check everything. In my pic it appears my idle might be at 14 degrees. I need to double check that. I also want to take some more pics of how I ran the plug wires and to clean up a few things while I'm in there. |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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A couple more pics. The spark arrestor hose barely makes contact with one of the wires. Not sure if I will swap it out or what. Going to get another set of wire organizers to tidy everything up a bit nicer.
Wifey misses the plastic cover, so I am going to modify it to fit over the dizzy. I have clearance on the top, just need to notch the front to clear the wires. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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Looks great. It's funny that your wife is poking around under the doghouse. I thought the doghouse was the one place where a man is safe from interior design suggestions, LOL.
I wouldn't lose sleep over the spark arrester hose touching a wire. |
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Nice work!
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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Nice to see attention to detail.
Can you flip the mesh part of flame arrestor over to make it clear? Hose will probably be short. Even if it touches doubt it would be a problem. |
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Those hose adaptors usually screw (or are riveted in) ....you can move it if you want........ ![]() Nice job - The Barefoot will be needing this in the future - we had the DUI on the Tique - loved it! |
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Nice work!
I see a riser gasket replacement in your near future! ![]() You have some leaks there...and you do not want any water leaking to the engine... |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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I think those leaks were from before when the PO had the boat. I've never seen water leaking from either riser. the rust stains drive me nuts.
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If it's it leaking you won't see it wet, you'll see the stains. Clean it up and give it squirt of paint, if it comes back it's still leaking.
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Good to know. I'll just replace the gaskets. They're only $10 each from what I can find on SkiDim. Pretty straight forward to change right? Just remove the 4 bolts on top of the riser, clean the mating surfaces and reinstall the riser???Looks like the tab on the gasket faces forward on my set-up. |
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More like remove the two short bolts... break the two long bolts... get the torch out heat the riser... vice grips on the remaining part of the bolt... hope for the bolt to spin free. ![]() Not to hard really. |
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