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kapla
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He is a natural barefooter, nailed it on the first attemp!
Good to have you down here! |
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Toertel
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BTW we did the worlds first double boom double ccf Sebastian barefoot run with face plant (me)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4zgAzc_Jx8&feature=youtu.be |
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IAughtNaut
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Awesome! You'll catch the fever for sure now Toertel.
it is funny to see a second sebastian wearing THE KAPLA's suit |
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Toertel
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I know I just missed the eagle suit, so here it goes:
Plset me know of any sales etc going for a size large BF suit |
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NCH20SKIER
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So yesterday Intold Kristin that some of us were skiing on Wednesday and before she asked if she could join us it was when were we getting her barefoot suit.....guess that footing last year at Tim's has sparked her desire to keep it up....
She has also picked up some of the Docs Pro Plugs (ear) that hopefully help with her ear issues |
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DayTony
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Hey guys, so with the 2015 season upon us. I am on a mission this year to walk on water.
Last year was my first season with my BFN. I did a lot of reading into footin and with a more than capable boat and all the gear i should need to learn i want to make it my goal this season to get up or get out. I posted a video last year of one of my many attempts which i guess worked out to be way to fast. I have never been the guy that gets mad at the driver for anything, and probably never will but i know that driving for barefoot is not the same as driving for wakeboard or ski or that other thing> but i feel like the people i am handing the reigns to could use some pointers while i am helplessly holding onto that handle and trying my hardest. what should i be telling them to watch for with speeds and when to throttle up and when to wait. are there any videos to show this better, or main pointers to give to the drivers? |
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jhersey29
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http://www.barefootcentral.info/Coach_Q02_mike.htm Save yourself the pain. I learned long line 24 years ago and trust me there are way easier ways. Forget the kneeboard and all the other hard tricks that are going to make your neck hurt for a month. Little has to do with the driver unless your getting up backwards. It is more of a solid foundation for proper stance, balance and toe control. Mike's videos and methods are great! I haven't seen the videos in a long time and not sure they are updated with new gear and modern boats but none of that matters for the fundamentals. |
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DayTony
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Thanks i will read through that, i was under the impression footin was a lot different in the driving aspect of things. most of the videos i have watched i can hear the engine rpm and to me it just sounds like the driver is waiting for certain points to speed up etc.
I tried the boom on my boat a few times last season, didn't get too far. My drivers couldn't seem to find the right medium between too slow where all i did was drink water or too fast. Its whole new world for me, same goes for my drivers. |
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IAughtNaut
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Tony, you're in CT, right? if I was you, I would PM TRBenj, tell him you'll bring a case of wine coolers and a gas can to his place and ask him to take you out and drive/teach you. it's just not something you can learn by reading. take your driver with you and have them observe the driving part while you learn to ski. a good driver can keep you from getting beat to death and put you in a position to succeed. once you reach a certain level it's just like anything else, you can ski with most any pull, but I remember the video you mentioned, you're not there yet, and really you're not supposed to be. |
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IAughtNaut
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just looked at your info, MA, CT, same difference. a little drive is worth the expertise. trust me, two years ago I flew out for the weekend from OH and I'm glad I did.
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DayTony
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I know what your saying with learning new watersports. I always try and make it the least painful for the person learning when i tow a new boarder or skier. And I know from experience that it can be a lot more painful than it needs to be from being pulled by my father for years.
I may have to do that some time. (if it ever gets warmer), may have to be a sack of twisted tea, I'm too cheap to buy wine coolers. I tried to make the big get together last season but just couldn't pull it off. I am going to try this year if they do it again. It would be good if someone would do an instructional for the tow'er instead of always teaching the tow'ee in these instructional youtube videos. I feel like i already know how to foot after watching every video available on the web. this one always come to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZKJwXvdh8 |
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NCH20SKIER
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Another option is to come on down to the White Lake mini in a couple of weeks
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IAughtNaut
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Greg, don't ever let anyone tell you that you're just a pretty face, you got brains for days.
If you do that you get the added bonus of watching me crash. I'm far from the best footer on this thread, but I can usually pull off a near perfect impression of what not to do. |
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TRBenj
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A seasoned barefooter can overcome rookie driving... A new footer combined with a new driver is a recipe for struggles. Find someone to show you the ropes in person if you can- bring your driver and let them learn from the experience as well. There may be options closer to you than I am, but feel free to make a day trip down this way once the weather warms up. Or better yet, take Adams advice and head south in a few weeks like a bunch of us are planning!
What are you working with in terms of equipment? Suit, rope, boom, etc? |
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quinner
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I mostly agree with Jim here also, pulling a footer forward is not that complex particularly if on a boom however in all events a good driver will never hurt ya and anytime a driver can enhance knowledge and improve their skills, better yet!! |
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JDD33
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Tony,
I'm on the learn to barefoot bandwagon! My first success was 2 years ago down in CT. Tim's uncle Todd helped me to step off using the boom on theBBBBII. I was hooked! Sold my Mustang bought a 87 SN and set it up with all gear I would need thanks to HW! Last year I had so so success on my own and as I'm NOT that good and my driver(wife) was trying to learn and understand what she needed to do. At the 2014 mini Adam and his dad Jackie went out with my wife and I on my boat to help us. Adam coached me on what I needed to do and Jackie drove and explained to my wife what she needed to do. Worked out very well! A very successful run leading to wanting be more successful this season! The guys on the site are great, they have a lot of knowledge and insight on footing,but to be around them and watch them foot and talk about it is infectious. They are great teachers and are willing to take the time to help you out and encourage you to succeed and want to progress. Looking forward seeing your success! And I'm not to far away in Natick! John |
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DayTony
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Thank you, i will be taking you up on that offer for certain. I will have to see about the white lake trip though. My gear, size 11 1/2 feet, a radical used barefoot suit i bought, BFinternational handle and long line, port side barefoot international contour boom and fly high Xpole pylon. John naticks not too far. thanks for the advise. sounds like the CT mini is def a worthwhile trip regardless of showing up to learn to foot or not. |
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NCH20SKIER
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Tony,
Some folks from NE are going right down 95 - I would bet a car pool may be an option for the White Lake event. For what it is worth, if you at some of my earlier posts around Christmas you will see my daughters friend Who I taught to foot. One weekend on the boom and the next time out we worked the 5' line and then long line. Everyone has their beliefs in what is the correct approach for instructing - to each his / her own. What has worked for me..... For those in shape the tumble up / superman on the boom. Those with fair conditioning the wakeboard / kneeboard off the boom. Depending on confidence I may or may not use trainers, Once comfortable on the boom I will go to a 2'-3' pig tail off the boom (same start methods) and continue to work up to the 5' pigtail. Once comfortable / consistent with good form we will talk about long line. I repeat the same steps as above using a wakeboard (better than kneeboard, bindings removed) with trainers for the "feel" of no boom and what it is like behind the boat. Only when the skier is comfortable and stable do we loose the trainers and go to the feet. The goal is to have an enjoyable experience (unless you are a boyfriend) and progress at a comfortable pace while minimizing the inevitable hard crash. Good luck and we are always here to help with encouragement and pointers provided you post videos...... |
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DayTony
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Now it's sounding more doable than I first imagined. |
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AAM196
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I thought I saw Tortel barefooting then I looked to grab my coffee and back up at the monitor and he was gone...
Nice Sebastian! You will not have to fly in with in skis/boards anymore! We'll be dodging logs on the river in no time! Also, just buy a suit... the days where you could pick up an old suit with last years design on sale are gone... it's become to much of a specialty item. If you can fit into a xs... KSO had some...LOL |
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Toertel
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Andrew, the suit and shorts arrived last week.
Got a 15% discount at BFcentral. Ready to roll now. I'm trying to come out to WL in order to hang out with CCF bros and get some pointers When will you splash the boat? Might be up in PIT for work soon again |
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kapla
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Finally the kids barefoot suit I bought last year paid off!
I had Valentino up in his feet with the help of the EZ Footer (swing). Boom was a little high, I had no wrench to lower the clamp, so he was doing little to no pressure on his feet. And changing wheigth to the boom side ended with a big spray in his face, so he ended rinding like that. He enjoyed it a lot! And me too! unfortunately I had no camera to record the good moment! hope to have some more warm weekends so i can take some pictures of him... |
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Hollywood
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Awesome! Bring a camera next time, and camo girl.
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kapla
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QuestÃon
Can you pull doubles long line deeps from the sfh? |
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TRBenj
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Totally. With the connection to the bow eye, it's arguably less stress on the pylon than not using the FH. Add enough footers to the high tow point and they'll stand the boat up coming out of the hole... But you should be ok with up to 3 for sure, maybe 4.
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Seb, you talking about the"standard" Fly High, the Super Fly High (tower mounted on your buddies boat) or your modified (double stack) Super Fly High. I would think you would be okay on the first two, the double stack, I'm not sure...
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kapla
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Tower mount sfh! I have one that never got to use...needs a tower wich i have not!
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kapla
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And my friend boat, he is always in a hurry so never got the time to intall it and tinker with it...some day when i buy his biat i will be abke to play with it...
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NCH20SKIER
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Went out today (first time this year), water temps were good, water condition was good, I was terrible. Took a couple of runs on the trainers and then wanted to go the feet. VERY QUICKLY found out that time extends (at least for me at this point) and the "boys" were not having it. Grabbed some additional "gear" this evening and will try again tomorrow.
From the video's, no doubt lot's of gas peddling happening.
My ski bud Carl
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NCH20SKIER
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Apologies for dead time in between the attempts
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