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Thaddeus116
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Terrible Quality Video... But this is my set up as of last night with my Aluminum Surfgate.
HD Video to come when I get home.... UPDATED (HD VIDEO NOW) |
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SNobsessed
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I give in - Where was that camera mounted?
Way cool wake, esp for port side. BTW, a thick rope is much safer than a ski rope for surfing. |
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63 Skier
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I can't view the video, just coming up as a blank box for me. Could you post a link?
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motorheadskier
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Nice wave your getting pretty far back! I moved my big bags more forward and am able to ride further out... Having too much fun haven't messed with a new angle but I did get 2 newbies up 2 nights ago on my short board without much trouble... Gonna make a better surfgate this winter... Till then I will try to film some waves
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Thaddeus116
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I have a GoPro mounted on a 4ft PCV Pipe in my right hand. I totally agree, I'll switch to a different rope. |
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Thaddeus116
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UPDATE HD VIDEO NOW Still low quality. I'll upload 1080p version ASAP |
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63 Skier
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Thanks for the link. That's an impressive wake for a 2001!!!
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Thaddeus116
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ANOTHER VIEW
Gets a shot of the gate in there. Might even be able to take her down flush with the swim deck!! Here's the link also WakeSurf the 2001 (2) |
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TheRinger
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Nice looking port side wave for sure! I've been having a hell of a time getting the wave to clean up on that side for regular foot riders, speeding up to about 11mph (I ride at 9 for goofy side and it is nearly perfectly clean) helps but by then the wave size really starts to dissipate,, tried a little steeper angle on the gate and that seems to make a bit of a difference too,, If I remember correctly you (thaddeus) had raised your swim platform a bit, did that make a difference? any other tips for getting rid of the wash on the port side wave?
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Thaddeus116
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We have been riding between 10.5-11 mph dependent on how many people are along for the ride. With the boat plowing as much as it does there was a lot of drag on the swim deck creating upward pressure on the bottom. It had so much pressure in fact it actually pulled the bottom screw out of the mounting bracket about a 1/4 inch. Which made me decide to raise the deck 3 inches with aluminum I-beam. I also rearranged the weight in the boat which helped a ton! Here's my current Port Surf Setup (The 150lbs in the back seat is used if there's only the driver in the boat otherwise we just sit a body back there.) That's all I've done to surf the port.. Hopefully that helps ya... try using your 2 800lbs bags and that 1 540lbs bag to match the layout I'm running????? |
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Thaddeus116
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Working on plans for the surf gate... starting with the hinge plate.
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05 210
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Damn, thats a lot of ballast for that boat. I had about 2000#s in my SAN (stock tanks+bags) and it was pretty sketchy to drive while still being close to max capacity.
Cool project but that weight looks downright dangerous. Stay safe. Mike |
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Thaddeus116
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Got the Starboard Gate Made Gonna test her out tonight!
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cspruill
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How did it go Thaddeus?
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Thaddeus116
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Wow! The Starboard side wave cleans up SO much nicer. And has slightly better push. It's SO weird surfing heel side edge. There is certainly a noticeable difference. I'll get gate and hinge plate measurements up here as soon as I can. Also just FYI, this build only ran me about $200. And $90 of it was for the TIG welding! I'm also working on a new weight configuration and auto-ballast... Hopefully gonna free up some much needed space in the boat. |
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O.L.DBoat
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Are you sure that gate doesn't put a massive amount of torque on the swim deck? Looking at my 88 2001 there's not much holding the platform to the hull. It wouldn't be very hard to triangulate the platform brackets for the side load. I want to surf mine bad but I don't have a surf board yet. Is the surf night and day from no gate to gate? I put an acme 912 prop on my boat this summer what prop are you guys with gates running?
By the way, love what you've done with those gates very cool. Can't wait to surf the SN 2001! |
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motorheadskier
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I have 150 hours on my boat so far this season I bet over half with the gate... Haven't had a problem yet... Its a game changer!!! Tons of people at my local lake have seen it and are building them for their boats. Still waiting for my friend to edit some video but I did spin a 360 behind my boat this weekend! And we braided a new safer rope... Hard to toss back to boat so now I just toss to other side of wake
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motorheadskier
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Windy day blew out my wave but here is the new rope |
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Thaddeus116
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To anyone interested I have been working on plans for the Hinge Plate and Surf Gate. The Hinge Plate Plan looks to be done. If you are Interested PM me and I'll send you the plans ASAP!
I'm currently working on and testing a less dangerous more aesthetic looking Surf Gate. Trying to make this thing as factory looking as physically possible without sacrificing function. When that's passed the test I'll make the Surf Gate Plans and Post again. ALSO I'm sick of ballast bags... I'm almost always over weight capacity, takes 10 mins to fill/drain, and severely limits the space for passengers and/or gear. I'm designing a Wedge modeled after Malibu's design... Plan is hard tank in front and Wedge in the back. If I can do it successfully there will be plans up for that too. Oss! Thaddeus |
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geecee
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wedge has always intrigued me, just worried about the force on the hull pulling the boat down.
thought this could be a game change for the 2001 wake/surf scene if it worked. more space on deck :D |
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63 Skier
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I'm enjoying this thread, I'm not a surfer currently, but like the way you guys have gone about your projects.
In looking at your design of the surf gate, the following occurred to me, sorry if you've discussed it before. Could the entire mechanism be incorporated into the swim platform with no connection to the hull? My thought is even if you had to beef up the platform, and maybe provide a more robust platform mounting plate on the transom, that way you could have the entire mechanism removable with 2 pins. Want to surf, put the surf platform on. Want to ski or cruise, put a spare "normal" platform on. Just a thought. |
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SNobsessed
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Lots of force involved in pushing around that much water. If using the platform brackets, you might want to reinforce their mounting areas in the hull.
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joshjanae
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I have enjoyed this thread. I like your wedge idea a lot. I found a great link that shows a wedge on an older malibu. It has some decent diagrams near the end of the thread that might be of interest to anybody looking to implement this design.
http://www.themalibucrew.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26752-homemade-floating-wedge-for-much-older-malibu-87-sunsetter/page-2 |
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geecee
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Google the ronix eight.3. It is a nylon triangle you Velcro to the side of the boat.
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TRIP
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Sam_lucero
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Any updates on the surfgate?
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TRIP
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Another good wakeshaper threadhttp://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/nautique-topics/general-nautique-discussion/485882-wakeshapers
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desertskier
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Thaddeus116
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Those suction cup gates are WAY AWESOME!!! That's a dang good idea!! Don't waste time building something like mine! Build or buy the cup style gate! It'd be awesome if the thing would float in case it pops off or something while underway.
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