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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff, 8 teenage skiers on two skis isn't even equal to 1 full size adult on 1 ski. Sorry but your logic won't make me change my mind. Have you ever even looked at how the aft ring is fastened to the transom? |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13523 |
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I've heard of gel/glass damage with extended pylons to the front ring and towing from the rear ring. I've also heard of damaged cam shafts (low zinc) and blown up boats (non-operational blower). We used to ski off the rear ring and have the Skylon hooked through the front ring. Can't say I was as strict on using the blower either then. Don't be the kind that waits for something to happen to improve your ways.
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74Wind ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-02-2011 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 2101 |
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Before I found him a pylon, my brother used the rear ring on a 72 Southwind for many years, with up to 8 skiers, on a very frequent basis, as they live on the lake. My friend has also used the ring on his 72 Coronado forever. Neither boat has ever shown even the slightest bit of damage from this. Or maybe older boats were just built better.....
While I won't challenge this prevailing wisdom in theory, there have been numerous past threads on this but never any real proof. Pics or it didn't happen.. ![]() |
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127 |
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Pete this is so not true!!!! My '85 has an oil filled coil that was mounted on its side when I bought it and still is to this day. As long as the ohm rating is correct, it's getting the proper voltage and your ballast resistor is working properly it will work just fine on its side. Here is all the part #'s for a prestolite clip down distributor the 1.5 written on the coil box in pen is the ohm rating. I can dig up the condenser # also if you need it. ![]() |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Someone else just PM'd me for it. If the deal falls through, I'll let you know.
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Ok when I get home from work I'll measure my pylon not for sure what size it is and I'll let u know
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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I'm currently selling a 10" pole and wakeboard rack. The ID of the pole is 2.5", $125 for the whole set-up + shipping.
Let me know if you're interested. Original Posting |
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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skyfuzz ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-17-2004 Location: South Florida Status: Offline Points: 239 |
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I didn't have a proper ski pylon for my '70 Barracuda, so I used the aft lift ring to attach the ski rope to when pulling skiers, kneeboarders and tubes. I did this for 7 seasons when I owned the boat. Although it was only maybe 4-5 times each summer, I assumed the aft lift ring would handle the load no problem. I also used both the aft lift ring and the forward lift ring to tie the boat to the dock. So, I suppose you could say, that I just learned something valuable here today! Yikes, had no idea what I was risking! Thanks Pete! The Wildcat I own now is pylonless and having one installed when the stringer/floor job gets underway. |
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Yes sir I agree about autozone I purchased the boat from a friend who purchased from original owner.. My friend had intentions on fixing up and flipping the boat so he did little things here and there like the coil before giving up and letting it sit for a yr before I bought it so that's why it is from autozone I only use napa and I'm a heavy equipment mechanic just not real savvy on old engines but I will look into the voltage and I am pretty sure it's oil filled.. But it shouldn't be getting hot right?? Also with it getting hot there isn't something else that could cause it to overheat other than the wrong type of coil or it being cheap
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Duck,
Your first mistake is going to Autozone. Sorry but I feel they are the absolute worst with any parts. Check the voltage going to the coil. A internally resisted coil will take the full nominal 12 volts. An externally resisted coil wants around 9 volts after the resistor. Then find out what coil you purchased. Also, an oil filled coil doesn't like to be laid on it's side and in the typical mounting position of many on marine engines. Epoxy filled coils will handle any mounting position. |
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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i have the old one he took off and they do both say use with external resistor which the engine does have but I thought maybe since some parts are marine specific and the new one is cheap from autozone that maybe that's why it was getting so hot then it would bog down and die after I let the coil cool or took it off and cooled it in water then put it back on it would start right up and run great for another 30 min or so then die and coil would be hot again..is it normal for that to get really hot and if it's not a defective coil what would cause it to get hot
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Duck, There really isn't any coil that's "automotive" or "marine". The key is it's need to be used with a ballast resistor or not. The resister lowers the voltage. |
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Ok thanks again I appreciate it took it out this weekend and everything was good except that they had an automotive coil they put on and it would get really hot then the boat would start to misfire when taking off from idle and die then it wouldn't start back up until it cooled off.. I put about 30 hrs of labor in it after purchasing it and thought I had everything right kind of disappointing but atleast it's a small issue and easy to fix I'm just new to boat game except for my dad owning one while growing up so I'm trying to learn as much as possible
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Morfoot ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5334 |
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Yes, Duck that is correct.... Attaching the support cable to the FRONT lifting ring has been known to cause spider cracking in the gelcoat round the lifting ring. Some have managed to get away with it but I wouldn't risk it. IMHO. |
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Ok awesome thank you sir it hooks to the eye on the front of the boat where the trailer hooks on to it correct
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Yes on the extended pylon ("fly high") but make sure you rig the forward cable correctly. The cable does not go to the forward lifting ring but is rather connected to a strap around the stem. |
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Ok thanks I never towed with it it was loose when I got the boat and I won't be rigging anything I'm appreciative of the classic original design of boat and don't want to rig it but it would be ok to get fly high and slide it on pylon without damaging anything and it will fit over pylon??
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Duck, Considering the lifting ring is loose, I HIGHLY suggest you investigate why it's loose BEFORE you use it for it's intended purpose of lifting the boat!! Yes, as Tim mentions, you purchased a competition ski boat. |
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Morfoot ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5334 |
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If you are wanting to pull wakeboarders, combo skiers, trick skiers, or kneeboarders then you'll need to purchase a Super Deluxe Boom Mount and a extended pylon. If you want to use a Skylon, Fly High or some other extended pylon then you will need to remove the existing Ring & Finger set up from the pylon and slide the extended over the factory pylon. PLEEEEEEEEASE, DO NOT CUT or HACK UP what you currently have to make it work. The Ring & Finger tow points are in HIGH demand as they are not made anymore and is considered criminal to destroy it to modify the exisiting to accomodate the extended one.
As Pete stated the rear 'Tow Eye' aka Lifting Ring that you are using was designed for verticle loads only (ie lifting boat in the boat house) and not for towing. That's why its loose. You purchased an Inboard Tournament Competition Ski Boat so yes all pylons are in front of the engine unless it's a V-Drive boat. |
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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The rear lifting ring is NOT designed for towing anything!! It's NOT a "tow ring"! Get rid of the passengers in the aft when pulling. BTW, never pull tubes even with the pylon.
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Darkwing420 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: July-27-2015 Location: Haslet tx Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Does anyone know if there is usually any kind of small extension for pylon or is it always just right above engine cover??? I just bought an 81 ski nautique and the back tow ring is loose so I can't pull with it but would like for people to be able to sit in back seat while I'm pulling
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