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Isn't there a Zach guy that has come up on several posts here that works at a dealer.
Does anyone know if they could - would do the replacement? I am into this by myself and doing it in a unheated garage. Not a lot of interested helpers and my wife wants her parking space NOW. All 3 of our cars are outside and it's frosting.
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cutlass swap thread


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zach doesn't even have to crouch down to change a cutlass
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OK, so worst case is I can drag it to Indy and N3 will do it for $300. Just hung up the phone. They did encourage me to take a shot at it.
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I can't believe there isn't someone closer that will do it. It's a basic DD (or even a VD) maintenence procedure. The marina's around Table Rock must only hire back yard hacks.


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Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Of course you are correct. Complete brain fart on my part. I just find it easier to pull the engine but I have a hoist system that makes it easy.


Everyone (except Jbear) who owns something Chevy powered has/needs a hoist system
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I could start looking around the lake in southern Mo.(thats where we boat at) but we live in St louis. To the best of my knowledge the closest SN dealer in at the Lake of the Ozarks that's 2 hrs + They told me they were booked for service for the next 90 days or so. Check back later??? Whatever that meant.
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David,
You do not have to seek out a CC dealer. Anyone who services a DD or VD should be able to handle the cutlass replacement.

So, you really don't want to take on the job yourself?


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I guess if I had some help I would be more inclined to just go for it. Taking it apart seems OK, just want to make sure goes back correctly and runs true. A professional shop who does it for a living has the experience.
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It is uncomfortable stretching into a new skill set, but it sure feels good when you get it done.

I have screwed up many a project, but always learned what not to do next time.

Every skill or pc of knowledge I picked up has made the next project easier.

Seems like there should be plenty of time to fix the strut bearing before boating season starts again . . .
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Of course you are correct. Complete brain fart on my part. I just find it easier to pull the engine but I have a hoist system that makes it easy.


Everyone (except Jbear) who owns something Chevy powered has/needs a hoist system


LOL. I need it more for my Volvo's then I did for the Chevy. It's OK to admit that deep down inside, you're really a Chevy guy too. No one will fault you for that. JBear turned to the dark side. You can too....


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I wish someone would come up with a device that would attach to the strut and push the bushing out. It would be much better than cutting it out with a saw.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I wish someone would come up with a device that would attach to the strut and push the bushing out. It would be much better than cutting it out with a saw.


Something like this?
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That is just what I was thinking of. If it works well it might only take a couple of struts to be worth the price for no aggravation.
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Originally posted by halfnelly halfnelly wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I wish someone would come up with a device that would attach to the strut and push the bushing out. It would be much better than cutting it out with a saw.


Something like this?

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

David,
John is correct that the "tool" isn't worth the money.
Originally posted by baitkiller baitkiller wrote:

Don't bother with the tool and business plan.

Just picture taking a slide hammer to a piece of brass tubing with a .035" wall thickness. The contact area is even less than the .035 since it needs clearance to the ID of the strut. You can't pound rubber! It may work half way decent once but then your "business" plan would suffer. Do you really believe everything you see on an internet youtube??
If you don't have an ARE shaft system, this would be a great time to install one!

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

If it works well it might only take a couple of struts to be worth the price for no aggravation.

Correct "if" it works for a couple of cutlass R&R's!!


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Dropping the strut is the easiest way to do it. No coupling bake, no rudder drop, four bolts and its off. You now have a dozen choices on how to change the bearing including dropping the strut off at a prop shop or car mechanic or machine shop, using threaded rod and pipe, hack saw, drift and hammer, plasma cutter, atomic fission, telling your son to NOT Take That Bushing OUT etc. Chances are very good it (the strut) isn't lined up correctly anyway and now you can do a proper alignment. (that you were gonna have to do anyway)
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I didn't know that was the first tool you were talking about. I can see that it would work on large struts better than our tiny ones. We're trying to do a quick engine swap, but one thing is leading to another and nothing is going to be quick about it. This thing needs a strut bearing and the one that is in it was inserted from the front of the boat and the rubber has squished out to the rear of the strut making everything difficult to see and get to. I'm beginning to think it's a job for a nice spring day, which derails my original plan.
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Baitkiller, I hear you, but reinstalling the strut is another job for a nice spring day. You probably can't relate to working in a cramped, dark, cold garage.
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I had to replace the damper plate on my '89. While the transmission was removed I was able to slide the driveshaft forward (after pulling the prop) and R&R the bushing. Removing the transmission is pretty easy. I did not have to remove the rudder or strut. Just one more alternative to the methods already mentioned.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

   We're trying to do a quick engine swap,.

Bruce,
With an engine swap, you've got it easy since you don't have to mess with the shaft coupling. Just pull the shaft out forward when the engines out. Do, as mentioned, check the strut alignment but with the engine sway you'll be doing a full alignment anyway.

Engine swap? Are you going non original on me again? Fill us in!


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Again? We're replacing a Commander with a PCM in a Tique and we would like it ready by spring, but one thing leads to another and so much for quick...The shaft is out of the boat and heading to the machine shop to be straightened. It's got a 11/1000 bow in it. I guess it was wishful thinking on my part about the quick as I should have known better.
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If the strut is lined up to the log, I wouldn't pull it. If it's not, then it needs to be pulled anyways so go for it! I have cut out bushings both with the strut in place and with it removed, it's not THAT much easier to get it out with the strut off (it's a bit of a PITA regardless), certainly not enough to justify pulling the strut if it's currently lined up properly. Rico got his old bushing out in about 30 min this summer, boat was on the lift and he was in the water. Very doable. Throw a space heater in the garage Bruce, it'll all be over in an hour.

Like Pete, I have my doubts about the strut pro being easy to use. There's just so little surface area for it to grab onto. If it were cheaper it might be worth trying but I'd rather borrow one first, ha.
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Tim, we've branched out to the garage in Portland which isn't that big and took us half of Friday to rearrange and clean it out enough to get the boat stored for winter. There used be heated garage space that you could rent by the hour around here, but that has gone away with all the urban renewal we're experiencing. No place to put a salamander without setting something on fire. We should have started sooner! Good idea about checking the alignment of the strut. It does look like the shaft was riding on the log a little which seems to be typical of the boats I've pulled apart.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

   It does look like the shaft was riding on the log a little which seems to be typical of the boats I've pulled apart.

The engine is probably out of alignment but do keep in mind it all starts at the strut.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

.Engine swap? Are you going non original on me again? Fill us in!

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Again? .

Is my memory going that bad? I seem to remember a downdraft swap where there should be two sidedrafts!


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Those are just performance bolt ons, plenty of people do that.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

If the strut is lined up to the log, I wouldn't pull it. If it's not, then it needs to be pulled anyways so go for it! I have cut out bushings both with the strut in place and with it removed, it's not THAT much easier to get it out with the strut off (it's a bit of a PITA regardless), certainly not enough to justify pulling the strut if it's currently lined up properly. Rico got his old bushing out in about 30 min this summer, boat was on the lift and he was in the water. Very doable. Throw a space heater in the garage Bruce, it'll all be over in an hour.


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I fixed a long bolt with a pair of 1.25" washers between 2 nuts. Tap this way a little, then back. Add a few drops of oil to the high side if needed and out she comes.
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