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NCH20SKIER 
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 Topic: Buckethead 2016Posted: January-22-2016 at 9:20am |
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So there has been much talk about the times had at the Buckethead 2015 and the upcoming 2016 edition. With that said, thought it would be best to organize a thread to host the names of those interested in participating, training tips, gear suggestions, driving suggestions etc.
I have reached out to another member about fielding a team and giving this a go on Saturday and then hanging for the fun event on Sunday. Counting on those who have skied this event previously to chime in and give some guidance of expectations etc. |
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IAughtNaut
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 10:21am |
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any idea what the dates are? I'm interested, but will certainly need some time to plan
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TRBenj
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 11:28am |
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I've been trying to get in touch with Brian regarding the 2016 date, but have been unsuccessful so far. I would imagine we're probably looking at 8/20 or 8/27.
A few links that might be useful or interesting: Official Buckethead Website Official 2015 video: https://youtu.be/IRuLF0QTXb8 Huge Midgets (Corvette boat) start video... these guys came in 3rd, behind Top Gun and Jim Bragg's team with the out-of-town ringers: https://youtu.be/joTh5F67z14 Here are the pieces you need to make a race rope: Figure 8 Rappel Ring (x2) Rope... You'll need ~120' of HDPE from Lake Elmo or Weyer's (their HTPE would be a good choice as well). I have several spools of this stuff too so drop me a line if you'd like. |
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TRBenj
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 11:50am |
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We were able to piece together a decent amount of info prior to last year's race, but it was still a bit overwhelming as first-timers. The race itself was pretty intense, certainly as a skier, but probably even moreso as a driver. Lots of stuff to pay attention to while doing everything as fast as possible and still staying safe.
Training can take many forms but I think that reliability is the most important skill- being able to ski through rough water, benign to inconsistent pulls, etc. Minimizing falls (especially the starts) is key. Conditioning the body to ski longer and the feet to ski faster would be the next steps after that. 38 miles is a pretty long stretch on your feet. 2015 finish times ranged from 55min to 1;45. We were smack dab in the middle at ~1:20, which was good enough for 7th place out of 12 (there was 1 DNF). If you can assemble another team and grab a spot in the race, we're proof that first-timers don't necessarily come in last- so go for it. If the prospect of the main event is a little overwhelming, then the Sunday race is a good alternative. Even if the "official" planning falls apart (as it did last year), we still plan to run it. Probably split Deep Rudders and assemble up to 3 teams of 4-6 people and run a half race (19mi). Maybe Steve (Tullfooter) would do the same and we'd have a small line of BFN's running up the river. |
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 12:08pm |
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All what Tim said. I think the thing that made us most successful at being consistent is that we agreed on a very set in boat and turn around process and practiced it that way. We really worked together nicely in the boat having never done such a thing before.
I had done a short race before with some veterans which helped me bring some ideas to the table before the race. Like Tim said, it's one of the most intense events you will take part in as a boater/skier. We had many years of experience in the boat so that helped with ideas on processes. Tim and HW were shoe ins for drivers having the most experience at high speed maneuvers in a BFN hull., |
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Hollywood
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 12:32pm |
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2015: August 29
2014: August 16 2013: August 24 2012: August 11 2011: August 13 2010: August 14 2016 Show Ski Nationals is August 13-14. Here's to hoping they schedule the Buckethead on the 20th or 27th this year... |
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phatsat67
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 1:06pm |
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We can lobby for it.
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75 Tique
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Posted: January-22-2016 at 1:06pm |
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Well if there is a conflict, I'll just take your place.
ha, ha ha HA HA HA BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA  Oh, sometimes, I just crack myself up. |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 5:35am |
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Our vacation planning puts me in the US of A during that time.
I'm game for the sunday funday CCF event |
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86BFN
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 11:06am |
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Sebastian, I'll be there as well. You'd be welcome in my boat!
 I'm trying to get the date from Brain. I will post as soon as I do. For anyone who hasn't seen this awesome video... Buckethead 2015 |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 12:53pm |
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Thanks Pirate Steve!
And I'll hand deliver a USB stick with the 2015 pics then |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 1:26pm |
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Red Malibu standing on the motorbox while skiing @ 4:33
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 1:37pm |
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I hate Florida. Nobody does anything cool like this here. No grass roots nothing, the state is devoid of cultural stoke.
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Jesus was a bare-footer.............
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:00pm |
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Asses down on the floor (yells TRBenj)
Edit: Every time I watch that video I remember how bad ass this was. Corvette Start In this video you can see us on the right (left side of the Vette) and how bad Dave wanted the Vette. He kept giving the thumbs up until we passed them but unfortunately we weren't conditioned for that much speed just yet ha. Also, you can see the gigantic advantage they gained on the start which is why HW has been practicing all the hot starts so we can get a killer hole shot ready for next year. |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:19pm |
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Thx for posting the video, I hadnt seen that yet. Awesome. I'd like to think I might be able to make it this year.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:39pm |
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I think everyone would be pretty pumped up to actually put together a somewhat planned out Sunday race,
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:48pm |
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Except Ralph.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:50pm |
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Are my links above not working? Or am I on too many peoples ignore lists?
I was pretty wiped out and unmotivated Sun AM this past year... But a Sunday race amongst ourselves would be pretty cool. Ralph is not invited on my boat. |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 2:52pm |
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Does anyone know where to get the hardware to make those pulley rope things?
The real key to getting out ahead is to start before the horn... |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 3:08pm |
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Good strategy.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 3:26pm |
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I think that is a jab towards me. I saw the information from TRB. Will be placing the order through Amazon or making the trek to REI.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 3:30pm |
No you're good. Mostly Zach. Pirate Steve gets a pass.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 3:54pm |
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Ha, I ignored the original post. I must have thought it was in the HW rollin through post.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 3:56pm |
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No jab at Greg. He asked first, then got answered. That couldn't possibly be a jab at him. Zach gets lost sometimes (a lot of times).
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 5:09pm |
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Clip below is from a different race - along about 5:15 you will see the importance of keeping your A$$ on the floor and paying attention to the other boats. I am guessing that when the turn was made the driver was not aware how close the other boat was
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 5:24pm |
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oh that back slam had to feel good... they are begging to get run over bailing out on the outside of the turn.
there doesn't seem to be any kind of a rush in most these other teams getting off their butts in the 10 second time limit... |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 5:42pm |
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I know the guy who got slammed against the side of the boat. I met him through the BFC find a footer website. He lives near boston. Came down to the Cape and skied with me once and I went with a buddy of his and him on another pond on the mainland. He was a pretty new footer then, but progressing well. I know that D2D race in Austin was his first. If you view the whole video, he also states that they ran over the rope and sucked it up in the prop that resulted in a significant delay. I think it was a thrown together last minute team, Maybe a veteran or two but mostly rookies.
Results that year.  Look at Top Gun.. 21.55 for 19 mile course = 52 mph average. I think I read somewhere where they did that race with like one run per guy in the boat, so 3 or 4 transitions. (He hasnt uploaded any videos in several years. I wonder if he is still at it) |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 5:52pm |
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12 minute delay
I thought his first start was long at 17 seconds but then followed it up with a 25 second butt ride on his next run... all the fist pumping cracks me up back to deep rudders I feel like our starts are turns are very dialed in comparatively [now]. We just need to ski faster and longer. Shooting for bottom of the top 5. ;/ |
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 6:03pm |
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Haven't seen too many transitions in race videos, but a couple, plus watching your practice runs in FL. What is protocol, Whip around in a hurry and head back or come to idle, turn around and go back up your own wake. I've seen both. At the beginning of the race, obviously you cant whip around, boats are all too close, but later when you are all alone out on the river, what do you do? Doesnt seem like you would want to take time to stop before heading back, but I can see not wanting a bunch or transverse wakes in the river either.
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Posted: January-25-2016 at 6:08pm |
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[QUOTE=Hollywood]
The real key to getting out ahead is to start before the horn... QUOTE] LOL that's my Video. I thought the same thing. Cheers Hollywood!
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