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    Posted: January-06-2007 at 3:54pm
I hope this works. A new member here guys and although I'm not a CC owner, I have a sweet '86 American Skier Barefoot Skier(no not the CC model American Skier) that I thought you might like to see. I also have a huge appreciation for older cla$$ic boats no matter who makes them. I've put a lot of time, effort, sweat and tears into this and I'm extremely proud of her. After reading numerous posts over the last couple weeks, I thought that some of you old gearheads out there might appreciate this even if it's not a CC. I bought her 13 years ago and since then completely replaced the floors and carpet. Reconditioned the trailor. Put on World Products Torquer II heads, MSD dist. and ignition, Edelbrock Performer Air-Gap intake, and rebuilt the carb. It has an Indmar 350 and everything is stock except the adds that I've already mentioned. Yes, that includes the exhaust manifolds and the valve covers. I just did a little polishing of the manifolds. OK, it was a lot of polishing!!! The engine is a 300SP and according to Indmar, only about 50 units were produced per year for a three or four year run. It was supposedly pushing really close to 300HP from the factory and in the mid to late 80's this might have been the hottest small block produced by a factory as an optional motor. It runs even sweeter than it looks. She'll pull a 'footer at 44MPH and when you give her the coals, everybody else on the lake knows it (God, you just gotta love the sound of a cla$$ic). It now has 1200 hr's on it and I'm either in it or behind it weekly. Enjoy!


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Eddie, good thing its gotta bowtie in it, nice attention to detail, the jury's out on the thing wrapped around the bowtie....anyways these guys will welcome you with open arms to the site with all that shine.
just kidding about the boat too, nice job
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Not a CC but definitely a nice boat, Nice job man!! Welcome.

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Eddie, Welcome.

Good looking boat and engine. Don't worry about it not being a CC. The folks here appreciate nice boats, especially older ones and appreciate folks who are pa$$ionate about their boats (especially older ones). Feel free to stick around, lots of good stuff, both fun and useful goes on here.
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Boat doc, whats missing?
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Welcome, Eddie.
Boat and motor look nice, I like the manifolds.
Maybe you can tell me what year this one is??
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Wow!!!! Nice job. That is a beautiful boat. Nice job on the polishing.
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Welcome Backfoot. That boat looks great. The American Skiers were my second favorite boat of during the 80s BKH
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Welcome and great job. I am with BKH. In the 80's The American Skier brand was my second favorite. I have known 2 guys who've owed them, one still does, and they both loved them. Really liked the manifold job.

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I really appreciate it. I actually do like CC's too. I toured the factory a few years back and met one of the Melloon's at a ski tournament. Their values and ethics are second to none and it certainly transfers to the boats they build. My brother-in-law and best friend back in WI both wanted to get an inboard after they spent time with mine and now each of them has a SN (one is a '92 and the other is a '97) that they refused to buy until I gave each of them my blessing.

MaddMarxx to answer your question about what year that Skier is, I would guess by the graphics and the decal an '82-'84. I haven't seen a lot of Skiers because they only produced about 400 boats per year but they are a very high quality built boat. I've never seen anything even close to that color scheme. That's cool!! If you could send more pics's preferably of the whole boat both inside and out, I could try to narrow it down for you. I have some info on them but not a huge amount.
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Very nice boat, Backfoot100. My buddy owned a 1987 American Skier Advance and had over 2,400 hours on the original PCM. I think their looks were ahead of their time. Welcome to CCF.com!

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By the way, what's the difference between the barefoot model and the American Skier model? The hulls look the same.

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Nautique2001 the barefoot model has a barefoot plate on the transom from the factory(which was WAY ahead of it's time). I think that there may have been more engine options too and the third speedo which this doesn't have. Other than that, I don't think there was any differences. It's a basic Advance hull. This is the only barefoot model that I've ever seen and I've only seen the same engine in one other American Skier.
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Really nice looking American Skier. They were great boats.

If we're going to come out of the closet...I've had this since 1992. It was imported from North Carolina. I think it was the first Malibu in Maine.It's got a PCM 240 and has been a great boat.

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No one likes cla$$ic Malibus?
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

No one likes cla$$ic Malibus?



insert cricket sounds here.



Just kidding Riley. They are a nice boat. I like the lines and graphics. I almost got one myself back in 1996, but ended up with an 89 Supra instead. The biggest reason was that the Malibu was a much longer trip to see and get.
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I've been in and behind a good number of 'Bu's both young and old. I like 'em. The posted photo is small and kinda hard to see but it looks similar in lines to a Euro F3. How about some more specifics about a the boat (year, model, etc.) and how you ended up getting that to the UK? There has to be a story behind that. Try posting a pic with photobucket to get a better look at it.
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The cricket sound was deafening. LOL.

I'm in Maine, I don't know how that UK came up as my location, but I'll change it.

That is a 1988 Malibu Skier. It has a 240 hp, PCM Ford. A buddy of mine who lives in NC, and I had been looking for a 2001 back in 1992. He calls me in Maine and said he found this nice boat, but it's not a CC. He says the boat is mint, has 150 hours on it, comes with eveything including skis, and is at a price that's too good to be true. Only thing is it has this ugly stripe. He bought it, brought it to Maine, and it turned out the stripe wasn't that bad. It's been a great boat. It came from Lake McLur, or something like that.





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Riley,

We probably have as many of those 80s model Malibus in my area as anywhere (they are made about 90 miles from my house). In my experience the boats are nimble, and a little faster than the CCs of the same era. I think they do tend to be pretty bouncy in rough water, and they don't have a very high freeboard.

It's not that common to find the 80s models in good shape. At the time, the boats were sold as price point boats as Malibu entered the comp boat marketplace. They are notorious for rotting floors and stringers, and also for the "Malibu Lean." I don't find too many people who put a lot of time or money into them, because on the open market here, they only sell for 4-7K. Malibu also chose some wild color schemes, which I don't think have held up over time with collectors as have the more cla$$ic schemes of the CCs.

Bu has come a long way in terms of quality and, of course, their prices have risen accordingly. On the other hand, my neighbor had an 85 which he put over 2800 hours on. Can't ask for much more than that.

Looks like you've found a good boat, really well taken care of. Enjoy it. BKH
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We've put almost 1000 hours on it with minimal problems. If the CC of that era are better in quality, it's the behind the scenes stuff. The engine, controls, gaugues, were all top of the line. The Gel coat is top notch. We moor the boat all summer and use it a lot. It's a wet boat. I've rebuilt all the seats, replaced the floor access panel and have been nursing a section in the floor by the gas tank with Git Rot for the past 10 years, so rot is a problem. I think they sold for $15k new versus $18k for a 2001. They definately don't bring the money CCs do.
Our colors are good, but many of them pretty hideous.

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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

If the CC of that era are better in quality, it's the behind the scenes stuff.


Thats exactly where you can see the difference. For example, Malibu used to inject the foam after the floor was in place. The floors were made entirely of wood, rather than fibergla$$ over foam on the CC's. Here is an '86 Skier thats being restored:




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I hope I never get into mine like that. I've got a 2' x 2' spot on the starbord side by the gas tank and under the rear seat that is soft. So far Git Rot is keeping it pretty solid.

Seems like it would be better not to replace the foam, and drill channels so that all the water drains into the bilge.
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Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

I've been in and behind a good number of 'Bu's both young and old. I like 'em. The posted photo is small and kinda hard to see but it looks similar in lines to a Euro F3. How about some more specifics about a the boat (year, model, etc.) and how you ended up getting that to the UK? There has to be a story behind that. Try posting a pic with photobucket to get a better look at it.


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Thanks Riley. Nice lookin' boat. I really like the lines of the older boats better than the new ones. Lower freeboard and straight lines with sharp corners. That's cool. And don't even get me started on the sound!!!! Congrats!
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Eddie; Took another look at this thread. Boy I like the look of your motor. I have a set of Commanders laying in the garage that need to be buffed so I can replace the PCM's on my motor. What did you use on them? I am gonna be pretty embarresed when you look under my cover!

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jbear, no embarra$$ment. Just be proud. That 80 is solid.
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Eddie, I also just noticed that you're a Telecom PM. I'm a telecom GC on the wireless side. Are you wireline or wireless and if so for whom and where?
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Eddie: Thanks to Reid I just noticed that you are a telecom guy. So was I. I am not sure what you guys mean bt "PM" or "GC". I was just a plain ole cable mtc splicer.

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John/ReidP;

I worked for an interconnect in WI for 24 yr's. I installed PBX's as a lead tech for 14, then became the install dept. Supr. for 5 years. Missed getting my hands dirty but liked management so I became a project manager (hence the PM John) for the last 5 years there. Job got eliminated due to downsizing. Relocated to FL (so I could ski year round) and currently working for a place in Tampa rebuilding used PBX's through Siemens. I actually tried getting into the wireless side because I did PM a couple of microwave installs and also got into the in-house wireless scenario's that integrated with PBX's. I thought it would be really cool to PM cell tower installs, but evidently, nobody else did. I worked systems as small as 6 phones to extremely complex 5000+ station location systems that were distributed to several sites across country.

Telecom guys rule!!!!

John, as far as the polishing of the manifolds goes. I just used Flitz with combinations of terry cloth towels, wool buffing wheels (the kind that you put in a drill) and newspaper to get it to the point that it's at now. Also used a dremel tool to get the hard to reach spots. The manifolds were somewhat polished already from the factory but they did turn out very nice. If you have the same type Commander manifolds that are in the pic that TRBenj sent with the Malibu floor rebuild, they should polish up very nicely. Just might take some time. Cost is minimal, but I did use a number of tubes of Flitz. Seeing as you're retired, what else do you have to do? By the way, you don't have to be embara$$ed about anything with that boat. The pic's that I've seen are awesome and it's an honor to be able to able to see something like that, not to mention the guys that will even make it more impressive!!!!
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Eddie: Telecom guys rule. Yeah. I retired after 33 years in Ohio. Started as a station repairman, then went to Installation, res and small biz. Never did PBX work. Was a "Centrex" tech for schools and cities for about 10 years. Nice work. Multiple locations but simple on site work, all the features came from the CO. Then went to Cable Mtc where I spent the last 15 years. Great job. Was a "temp forman" a couple times but never took the job for good as I just didn't want to be tied down. Loved the job the whole way. Great times, pay, benefits, friends.

Can I a$$ume that one picks up Flitz at an auto parts store? Actually I got lots to do. Me and Patti both work at the Care Center in Lake Wales. I used to drive a Polk County school bus (cool job) and Patti worked at Cypress. I could never really be retired.

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