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funtones55
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Oh I see. Thanks Donald.
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Donald80SN
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I believe Steve decided against the project for several reasons. His boat seems to fit well in his garage. His wife my not be as pleased about it though.
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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funtones55
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Has the contsruction started already?
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greggboy
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Hi, your planning is too good.
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jbear
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there is life after Ma Bell my friend... john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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Gary S
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Tell me about it Don. I'm going on my fifth year of being unemployed already!
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Donald80SN
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I thought my house was a 5-10 year home. 22 years later and one in college and another to put through college, I will be here another 10 it looks like. Time goes by fast when you are having fun. Gary, I know Steve's lovely bride. She give Steve heck for camping in a tent with his CCFan buddies. She laughs at him for it. I doubt she will go with a tent over the boat for 15 years. Steve is like me, three girls one man. Always outnumbered. Donald |
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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Gary S
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Here is the key to the whole project- "This is probably a 10-15 year house for my family".
Get one of these save your money put it toward the lake house and store the boat where it belongs...on a lift or a boathouse |
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tryathlete
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Haha! Now I get why you wanted me to bring the measuring tape! That's our wonderful winter Nautique village there. |
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tryathlete
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Have you considered building a combo pool house and garage on the other side of the property? You could build an entertainment side facing the pool and then combine that with a much larger space for boats and cars.
A tall structure with a 10 foot garage door running with a ridge line perpendicular to the main house and taking the roof line down on pool side to 7 foot would make for a nice overhang sheltered area facing the pool. You could combine the extra driveway with pavers to create a large pool deck combination as it wraps behind the house. You've got room for this over there, And there's nothing in view from the front (neighbors) so no need to waste money on brick or shake shingles. I picture something 40 x 30. |
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8122pbrainard
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Duane, You're always thinking but, it sure wouldn't have worked up here were the frost depth is close to 4'. With the 4' depth, that puts you back to a French drain and I've seen those freeze up I feel primarily due to the static nature of the water flow plus no bacteria to keep things ware like in a septic tank. BTW, my septic's top of the water level is set at 5' and then the drain field just over the 5'. |
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Duane in Indy
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Pete, I like your idea but maybe take it one step farther.. Install an RV dump valve in the pit and connect it to a downspout drain under ground. Just open the valve to drain runoff water. Kinda covert style. Duane. |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
1978 Mustang (modified) |
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8122pbrainard
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Steve, I would question the floor drain even if allowed by local codes, Petroleum products entering a septic, French drain, sanitary and or a storm drain is not good and potentially dangerous. What I did on the house garage I just finished is install a no outlet grated sump in the middle of the garage with the slab pitched to it. It's 24 x 48 x 10 deep. It certainly will not handle washing a vehicle but will handle the snow melt off the cars. The basic intent is to keep water from running down towards and under the OH doors. Up here, the water will freeze an OH door to the slab!! |
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93xs2003@gmail.com
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Donald,
My 'boat shed' is 25' x 40'. I was gun shy about a deed restriction limiting detached garages, hence the 'shed.' If I did it again, I would go bigger. With a couple other projects, I have learned that set back limits were made to be challenged. You just need to go through the process and play by their rules. Unless you are in a hurry, I would attempt for the variance, with the understanding that the worst case is you will need to default to the prescribed set-back. Make sure you exit this process as buddies with the building department. Risk is probably a few hundred bucks in extra fees and a few hours of your time. One thing I did do was to run pex in the slab for radiant heat. I was thinking I would eventually put a small water heater out there to keep things above freezing. After I built this 'shed' I realized that by chance it was perfectly oriented for solar. I bought used solar water panels and installed a drain-back system to heat the slab. This morning it was 17 degrees outside and 42 degrees in the shed. This comes at the cost of running a 90 watt circulation pump when the sun is shines. I realize that heating a detached garage may not be a big concern in NC, but if it were me, I would plan to install enough solar (water) on the back of that garage to cover 100% of your domestic hot water demand for your house. I would divert a small portion of this to keep the garage above freezing in the winter, and dump any excess to the pool in summer. This, and if I did it again I would install iron lengthwise and crosswise for hoists. (and if funds allow, . . I would install a lift or at least make provisions for a future lift). .. . and maybe a floor drain. |
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lakedog55
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Hi,
Sometimes a taller door means taller walls which can add to the cost quickly. They do have low clearance tracks. The installers hate them but it does enable one to put a taller door in a shorter wall. Curious as to what is on the existing house wall . Seems easier to build three walls and make it an attached Garage. Could help resale in the future. Or maybe a portico from house to garage.. Mike GC |
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SWANY
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Is that a Pepsi can on the workbench all the way at the back of the building? Is it full or empty?
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quinner
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There are a couple Vettes and also a couple Shelby Mustangs, perhaps we could start a new thread of what's under the wrapper with a really big prize.
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JPASS
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I was wondering what was under there as well. |
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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peter1234
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is that a mopar or nova fender/headlight? and whats under the over? c6 vette?
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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NCH20SKIER
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and the silhouette cutout of CQ looks to be spot on
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'05 206 Limited
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Gary S
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As you can see Quinner has ample space and a different watercraft for each day of the week. Thinking ahead he even has room for future acquisitions
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Swatkinz
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Thanks Quinner
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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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quinner
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Steve, measured my tower up height, about 9'-3", 206 on Eagle dual axle trailer with 14" rims. Other brand trailers may vary slightly but probably not enough to make a 9' door work.
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Riley
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That's how you start out, but after a few years it looks like this if it's not big enough. |
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JoeinNY
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You aint lying, most of my life I have worked in a driveway... when I was 30 I was spoiled by sharing a 10' x 24' bay with a buddy. Ten years later and my house garage is 28x28, with 28x 18 overhead storage, rental shop is 36x50, real nice 8 x 14 shed... and I still have 7 boats stuck outside at this point... more space just sucks in more stuff. A well thought out and set up 20x28 boat storage house is a huge luxury. |
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Donald80SN
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Dang Steve, I have looked and looked at this photo of your home and for the life of me, I can't tell where the wheels where on this doublewide trailer. The cement pond also adds a nice touch. Nice job. Donald |
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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quinner
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20' is quite a large setback for most municipalities, is that setback actually a covenant of the HOA ?? Are you septic & well and if so where are they ??
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63 Skier
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Steve, have you considered making the new structure into one of those micro houses, moving into it with the family, and turning the house into boat and car storage and man cave and work shop? Seems sensible to me.
You are 100% right, you'll love having a space like that! I rented an office with a storage bay in back about 2 years ago, have 2 boats side by side with enough room to walk between, still have enough length to work on stuff, stick my plow inside at times. I measured and it's 19'4" wide. |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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8122pbrainard
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Steve, You probably already know but if not, the setback is the edge of the eave and not the wall. |
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NCH20SKIER
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Steve
I had a 24x28 at my old place and it worked ok (I wanted 26 x 32 but others objected) the final size worked out pretty good - I think somewhere the site there are pictures of the garage. I opted for conventional framing with an 8/12 roof pitch to permit storage upstairs. I also by-passed the micro lam beam and went with a W16 x 40 to support the second floor framing and permit the occasional hoisting from the beam. I will see if I can find the pictures of the garage and link them in. I have a set of the plans and will try to get them scanned and send to you if you like |
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