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SWANY 
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 Topic: Wildcat-need some help identifyingPosted: March-14-2018 at 11:37am |
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Looking to know the width overall from tire to tire on a number 3 cc trailer from the late 60s. I can guess that it's over 7ft due to the boats that would go on them but probably narrower than my number 3 trailer on my 87. Nor did I find anything in the search engine, if it's possible somebody can measure for me that'd be awesome, or an educated guess from the trailer gurus
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TRBenj
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Posted: March-14-2018 at 12:00pm |
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https://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27969&title=1970-barracuda-trailer
Add fender width and you’re around 90”. |
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Hollywood
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Posted: March-14-2018 at 2:25pm |
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Frankenotter had a lengthy thread going about swapping around trailers to fit in a small garage.
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SWANY
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 12:30am |
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So I updated the thread title and I will add to this one instead of creating more threads on the same boat. Hint-Hint.
Anyways we (Brian) and myself went and picked up a Wildcat I found on Facebook marketplace pretty much, poorly advertised. I recognized it right away as a CC, what I thought from two pictures posted was maybe a Baracuda. Got more pictures from seller, turns out a wildcat. There's no paperwork so in there lies a couple problems. He said he was told its a 71' but we all know how that story goes. We showed up and got all the interior parts (shot) which I did not expect so there's a bonus. It has a Chrysler motor. Valve covers say 300hp, we have done some research and year ranges this motor was available in the wildcat but we can not determine this is a 440? We just picked it up this afternoon so little time with it has been had to dig into it. Brian will post the pictures hopefully soon, last time I tried I was having problems,ugh. Pretty cool boat, overall condition pretty decent all thing considered. Gel coat will clean up pretty nicely we think. #the lady's whip destiny isnt determined yet maybe a while. To restore or part out due to motor condition and no papers. Exciting either way |
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Gary S
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 1:18am |
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I guess paperwork wise Joel it depends where it was last registered. A number of years ago if it was an Illinois boat there was an easy procedure to acquire them. IDNR was very helpful at the time.
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TRBenj
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 8:56am |
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If the gel is recoverable then it shouldn’t be a parts boat... lack of papers can usually be overcome and plenty of engines available to swap in. I think that hull style may have changed in ‘70 or ‘71 (definitely by ‘72), joe may know the transition year as he’s had both (yours is the earlier one with more character). I thought the 426 was rated at 290hp, I know the later 440’s were rated 330hp. The small block LA/LM Chrysler’s had the displacement cast right into the side of the block- not sure about the big blocks. Very cool boat.
That’s a #4 Trailer btw, it’s notably wider than a #3. |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 9:28am |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:11am |
Could it be the 413??? |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:20am |
 This is out of the 1968 brochure. It does list the 300HP. The Chrysler engine manual lists the 300 as a 413D. |
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JoeinNY
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:24am |
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300 Hp could have been a hot dual carb 413 setup if earlier, or the base 440 setup if later - the 330 was 440 with a little warmer cam but not much change in compression or carb setup.
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:33am |
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I agree with Tim B.......Save the old girl! You will love the drive as much as the ride and so will the rest of the people on your lake! Go Team Mopar.
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Riley
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 11:00am |
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How about some pics? Definitely worth saving if the gel is good.
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SWANY
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 11:17am |
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I could email them to someone to post. Brian is traveling all day so he said he wouldn't get to it till tonight. Almost positive it won't become a parts boat it was just worst case scenario thought before we picked it up. I'm convinced because the size of the boat and the construction the gel is really thick, or there's just so little Flex in the hull compared to the smaller boats so there is virtually no spider cracking
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 12:52pm |
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Joel and Brian,
Does this look like the engine? This one looks like it's in a Century. They loved to put lots of HP in small wood hulls!!! 
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 1:12pm |
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Exhaust manifold look very familiar. It's a single card setup
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 1:14pm |
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Joel, If you want, email me the pics and I will post for you
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 4:03pm |
 Tracks from a Hellcat, thought it would go with Wildcat post |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 5:04pm |
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Polish that snot colored beauty and get it to Green Lake !!!
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 5:42pm |
Well Brian certainly seemed to have the Wildcat bug pretty hard after a quick ride around in the Fennessy/Pinkham collaboration down in NC so I don’t see this one getting too far away if he is involved. Especially if he got a ride in one that is running right… That's a 440 for sure, 71 seems a big late but possible and certainly I would put it 68+ with that cooling system. I can compare that SN to whats in my garage at some point and we will be closer. What is the status of that engine, known bad or just unknown? The technology and parts are around to rebuild her for sure, just a question of time and money. I am going to do my best to get out to GL with a big boat this year- just need to get a few more out there from Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri… and Chicagoland and we can have ourselves a BIG time for sure. |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 5:43pm |
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Joel, it's pretty easy to tell what a Chrysler is. It will say 413-426-440 on the side cast into the block. It will be on the water jacket but signs point towards a 413. Also, the casting date will be right on the side of the block.
Nice score! |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 5:55pm |
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Zach knows his mopars but it is still a 440, and will be stamped on a pad in the front top of the block (hanging out in front of the valley cover on the port side) with the displacement as well as the casting numbers on the side.
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 6:12pm |
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Joe,
Green Lake likes its fat ladies... Hope you can make it. Those big boats in the big waters of GL are a perfect fit.. 
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SWANY
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 6:33pm |
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Thanks Larry.
Good info thank you. Hopefully I'll dig into it soon here and see if the block turns. So the condition of the motor is unknown at this point. Although I spun the shaft when I was tying things down and it moved like it just had an alignment! Steering moves freely and the controls. Only thing that's missing is the bow light, tech, and the pylon. We have the rear seat, motor box and then it has two steel bucket seat frames for the front. There's one spot up on the Bow where somebody probably hit a dock so there's some kind of patch work there, a couple spots along the chine but otherwise it's in pretty good shape. Floor is gone....enough said. Lots to dig into and investigate Joe- just out of curiosity did that cover you have come with it? At badin it looked identical to my original 2001 hull cover. We put it on the boat for the time being and it's not very close to right. |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 7:36pm |
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Thanks for all the replies and posting the pics. This is a very interesting find. Excited to see what shape that motor is in and do a more thorough inspection of the rest of the beast.
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 7:43pm |
I bought that cover last year from boat covers direct, its not what I could call luxurious up by the bow flair so you have to have it centered just perfect to stay on, but the price was right and they just happened to have a pattern for a 68 Wildcat on the books. I figure I might have to add a little material to the front sides at some point to make it easier to cover from the dock but I still feel pretty good about it. They also had cheaper materials available. Product: Tie-down Kit and Storage Bag Part #61001 Carver Tie-down and Bag Combo - Promo Quantity: 1 Price: $0.00 Product: Styled-to-Fit Boat Cover Part #74100A Material: 9.25 oz. Sunbrella Acrylic Color: Royal Blue Manufacturer: CORRECT CRAFT Model: WILDCAT Years: 68 Quantity: 1 Price: $413.74 Subtotal: $413.74 Shipping: $0.00 |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:17pm |
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Nice find, I'd love a big block mopar in my boat.
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 10:52pm |
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Brian- We need you to pull out the card and buy a cover...kidding.
The block is moving freely!!! Had a couple minutes of day light to try and spin it. Found 6 freeze plugs real quick all in the right spots. There's even more hope now. |
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Posted: March-19-2018 at 11:08pm |
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Looks like a great project!
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