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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Tim is flat wrong. It’s an hour and a half job. 45 minutes to R an R but you spend 45 minutes looking for that ball and spring that sprung across the garage.


The screws on the back of my MV-1 came loose on the boat last summer and basically fell apart from the backside. I accidentally learned how to rebuild an MV-1 in my driveway. It took an hour and a half to rebuild the unit, realize a bearing and spring was missing, find the ball and spring in the carpet, take the MV-1 back apart, and then reassemble it.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Tim is flat wrong. It’s an hour and a half job. 45 minutes to R an R but you spend 45 minutes looking for that ball and spring that sprung across the garage.


LOL, and only 45 minutes if you have a fairly clean garage...

Ha. Fair points all around!
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   Consider me unconvinced of that... prevents someone from knocking it out of neutral inadvertently but that’s it..


That's the intension.[/QUOTE]

There's the butt shift, the elbow shift, the knee shift, etc. I think the collar guards against most of those and to me that's the whole point. With a driver sitting in the seat I don't so much worry about locking mechanisms.
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Explain's alot of whats going on today. Back when men were men, we didnt have safety interlocks,outboards had rope start no neutral or reverse. No auto bilge pumps,radio's either. But so far we ended up with heated seats and surfing...... whats next?
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Explain's alot of whats going on today. Back when men were men, we didnt have safety interlocks,outboards had rope start no neutral or reverse. No auto bilge pumps,radio's either. But so far we ended up with heated seats and surfing...... whats next?


No longer need guys to come to your house to wire in the phone....Now that I think of it, in the town I grew up in, everyone with a nice Irish name worked for NE Telephone, if they weren't on the town or the state. Got to be a lot of good jobs lost in that industry.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Since it's a California boat I think it's a Marine World boat,much more rare than a Cypress boat. bkhallpass could fill us in with more detail I'll bet- but might want to keep it under the radar until the auction ends so not to inflate the price for this gem.
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Good price on a vintage "bullet housing" Airguide speedo

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Thanks Phil! That’ll look great on my mustangs dash
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

I assume we are talking about the collar at the base of the knob being the “significant safety improvement”? Consider me unconvinced of that... prevents someone from knocking it out of neutral inadvertently but that’s it..


I guess if it's not a safety feature/improvement it must fall into the category of nuisance/inconvenience features then
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Yup, that sounds more like it.
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Not ebay, but a really sweet looking Mstang for sale.
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Ok well you guys have me convinced to rebuild the one I've got. I'd like the safety aspect of the MV2, but I wouldn't have learned the safety deficit of the MV1 had I not searched around the forum for info on the MV2. So if the rebuild is successful, I'll have saved myself some money and learned to be extra cautious around the shifter.

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Needs work 91 Sport SN good luck.
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Could be the deal of the century.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interceptor-Marine-Ford-Y-Block-55-thru-62-aluminum-intake-manifold/223287481493?hash=item33fcf89495:g:stcAAOSwIS9cFsag:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Could be the deal of the century.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interceptor-Marine-Ford-Y-Block-55-thru-62-aluminum-intake-manifold/223287481493?hash=item33fcf89495:g:stcAAOSwIS9cFsag:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Nice find Bruce I am tempted..need to hook up with guy as I just picked up an old 360 FE truck motor to add to my engine collection, they are getting hard to find over here and marine ones never come up.
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Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Could be the deal of the century.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interceptor-Marine-Ford-Y-Block-55-thru-62-aluminum-intake-manifold/223287481493?hash=item33fcf89495:g:stcAAOSwIS9cFsag:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Nice find Bruce I am tempted..need to hook up with guy as I just picked up an old 360 FE truck motor to add to my engine collection, they are getting hard to find over here and marine ones never come up.


If you do that you'll have a manifold that won't fit your 360 FE engine   

An Fe and a Y block are like an apple and an orange.
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Could be the deal of the century.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interceptor-Marine-Ford-Y-Block-55-thru-62-aluminum-intake-manifold/223287481493?hash=item33fcf89495:g:stcAAOSwIS9cFsag:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Nice find Bruce I am tempted..need to hook up with guy as I just picked up an old 360 FE truck motor to add to my engine collection, they are getting hard to find over here and marine ones never come up.


If you do that you'll have a manifold that won't fit your 360 FE engine   

An Fe and a Y block are like an apple and an orange.


Sorry for the confusion Ken ,I have 2 y blocks on the go..I think the ebay guy is a friend of Bruce he uses for his motors.
Any input you like to share on FE engine would be great... hoping to take it out to 4..o50 390 bore.
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I thought you had a y block or 2, but figured I'd mention it to be sure.

It's been a while since I had an FE, but there is lots of info on the internet about getting good power out of them including the bore job that you mentioned.

First engine I ever tore apart was a 390.

First engine I ever reassembled wasn't that 390, but I learned a lot   
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

I thought you had a y block or 2, but figured I'd mention it to be sure.

It's been a while since I had an FE, but there is lots of info on the internet about getting good power out of them including the bore job that you mentioned.

First engine I ever tore apart was a 390.

First engine I ever reassembled wasn't that 390, but I learned a lot   

Ken just stripping down now current bore reading 4.020 its out of a 70's F100 block code C6ME could be a 352 not as sold.
May be me but the FE block has the same feel as a y block around the crankshaft.
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Roger, if your interested in any of engineguy's parts, let me know.   I am a friend of his. I see his FE manifolds have not sold. The FE block is the engine that converted me to a Ford guy.

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Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:


Ken just stripping down now current bore reading 4.020 its out of a 70's F100 block code C6ME could be a 352 not as sold.
May be me but the FE block has the same feel as a y block around the crankshaft.


The block is a lot like the y block in the main bearing area just like you're thinking

This info from fordification.com in the link would suggest that it's a 360, but your bore measurement would seem to be a 352 with a .020 overbore

I always got confused by numbers on an FE block, like I think that most of them have a 352 cast in the block that has nothing to do with displacement

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Some people refer to the FE as a Y block. I think most, if not all FEs have 352 cast into them. Our 427 does. Great chart Ken. I'm saving that.

Although now that I look at it, the info states that's what an engine could be. Our engine is a C5AE-H. The chart says it's a side oiler, but I believe ours is a top oiler.
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The whole fordification.com website is good

Lots of good info and like anything else on the internet there may be some misinformation but at least he warns you that there could be discrepancies and somewhere on his website is some good reading about getting kicked off another website    
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I'd like to read that if I could find the link...

My understanding of the FE is that they require much more knowledge to rebuild or especially modify than a SBF or a SBC or a BBC. Why is that? Ford must have turned out millions of them as the 352s and 390s were very common.
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If you want the link about getting kicked off another website here it is

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To me, I don't know what's any different as far as rebuilding an FE engine
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:


Ken just stripping down now current bore reading 4.020 its out of a 70's F100 block code C6ME could be a 352 not as sold.
May be me but the FE block has the same feel as a y block around the crankshaft.


The block is a lot like the y block in the main bearing area just like you're thinking

This info from fordification.com in the link would suggest that it's a 360, but your bore measurement would seem to be a 352 with a .020 overbore

I always got confused by numbers on an FE block, like I think that most of them have a 352 cast in the block that has nothing to do with displacement

link

Thanks Ken for finding the links, that chart is a great help..as you and Bruce said, yes my block has the 352 cast mark.
I need to clean up the block,has a around 1/4 inch of oily sludge in the valley and front timing cover. Have a cheepo sonic tester l try on the bores.
Thanks Roger.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Roger, if your interested in any of engineguy's parts, let me know.   I am a friend of his. I see his FE manifolds have not sold. The FE block is the engine that converted me to a Ford guy.


Thanks Bruce, I thought it was a guy you used and Billy spoke about,
Will PM you my shopping list for the FE and some Y block parts I need.
Roger.
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