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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Thanks Gary and I thought The Supra Stringer job was a PITA. I will work something out . Its good to know what they had in mine . The previous owner did all the demolition so I never saw it before. There is no way this boat will ever be as clean as yours.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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What they originally did Mike was to foam the boat then they laid a layer of glass over the top of everything which sealed it all up. Then that fiberglass pan goes in on top of all that. Here is a picture of my floor you can see where I took out all the foam when I got it in '89. I cut out that top layer of fiberglass but did not cut it flush to the stringers and cross members. There is only one place up in the seating area where there is anywhere close to a foot of unsupported floor. So to protect the fiberglass pan from damage I used that 5 ply underlayment soaked in cpes then epoxy and cloth covered. Supports the floor very well. In the area where the seat tracks screw down, I cut extra pieces of the 5 ply and buttered them underneath to really give the screws something to really hold to.
![]() ![]() One area that causes trouble though is where this arrow is pointing. When Correct Craft laid the glass over the foam they gelled it in this area so it blended in with the floor pan. You pull out the foam like I did or replace the stringers like you, this spot will be open. The support floor I put in you can see where I colored the spot that is exposed in that picture above. You will have to figure out how you'll work around this. ![]() This is the final result- ![]() |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Thanks Gary I just needed to know how long it is. So the foam is supposed to hold up fiberglass floor. I think I will add some cross bracing . The stringer material is inside the heated basement shop it will be quite some time until they are ready to be coated with CPES.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Measurements? You don't need no stinking measurements. Just make it fit the hole you now have
![]() ![]() ![]() This is an underside picture of that panel with the old plywood removed. It is used to provide support since that panel is removable and has no foam under it. I replaced it with two 1/4" 5ply underlayment CPES'd and bonded to the bottom of the panel. If you look close you can see the lip around the front edge and part way down the side. This makes it looked more finished when its installed. The part of the panel that does not have the lip is under the seat so it's not seen. ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mike,
The SYP should be fine. Just make sure you do a good CPES job on it and maybe an extra layer of glass on the sides. That will compensate for the strength of the SYP VS: the DF. Do you have a moisture meter? I suggest seeing what the moisture content of the SYP is. |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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I am missing the section of floor behind the engine cover . Does anyone have any pics of what is supposed to be there and maybe some measurements.
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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I decided to put the floor, rear seat and engine cover back on while I had the engine somewhat set in place. Everything went well until I put the engine cover back on . It hits the vent on the valve cover and both exhaust manifold risers. So do I stick with the 86 manifolds with 3'' exhaust ? That will require big modifications to both the hull and engine cover. Or put the 68 exhaust manifolds on with 2.5'' exhaust no modifications needed to engine cover or hull. has anybody ran a 351 with 289 manifolds?
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Well my Doug fur source fell through they said even if they could get it it would be very costly. So I went with Southern Yellow Pine . I picked the boards with hardly any knots and straight grain. Probably wont last forever but neither will I.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mike,
Since you're dropping the 351 in the hull, I'd go with the 3". Enlarging the holes in the transom and finding new 3" tips should be pretty easy. |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Another question The original engine came with exhaust manifolds with a 2.5'' exhaust opening . The 351 has 3'' . I don't know if I should go with the original and chance restricted exhaust or go with the 3'' and boar out the hull openings.
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Got It I will check tomorrow.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mike, The "rule of thumb" has been one shaft diameter but some like less. The less distance means less overhung load and that means less load on the shaft One thing to watch out for is prop clearance to the hull. As the prop is moved forward, the clearance is reduced. |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Made some headway today . Set new 351 in the boat to check alignment so I can see if the original stringer design will work with the new engine and mounts without modification. . The good news is the distance between the stringers is the same on both boats and as far as I can see it should line up with the prop shaft. Only question is there a set distance between the strut and the prop I used the rub marks on the shaft to get me close. I don't have a pattern to copy since the engines are different and there are multiple holes in the stringers from the old engine. Not important now but will be needed after new stringers are installed and engine is installed. More good news I think I solved the picture posting problem.
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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I heard the Atlanta boat show is going to be much smaller and in building A because of the Superbowl . Sounds like a good year to take off.
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Not much to look at now just cleaned and dry. I have to set the 351 in it and see if any mods have to be done to the existing stringer set up to accept the 351 . Should be fine small block ford to small block ford. From there it will move into the basement where its climate controlled . That work thing keeps getting in the way I worked my A$$ off in November so I am hoping to take some serious time off now till next year.
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Morfoot ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5331 |
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Sounds like you've been a busy boy Mikey.... When time allows Heather and I will have to make a trip up there and see whatcha got. I know a guy so I might even be able to bring a stringer rebuild care package with me.
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"Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Well I finally tracked down a lumber yard that can order Doug fur they stock southern yellow pine . They couldn't give prices on the DF until Monday but they warned it wont be cheap. I am going to go there Monday and look at the pine . They said it is grade A so if it doesn't have any large knots I may go with it. Realistically if the boat only lasts 20 years and not 50 I think that will be fine. I am working on getting pics from my phone to the forum I intend to fully document the build for all to see and advise on procedure.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11182 |
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And now you know a lot about veterans discounts among other things ![]() |
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emccallum ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-08-2006 Location: Clarks Hill SC Status: Offline Points: 1084 |
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read the whole thread hoping for some great stringer pictures.............
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mike, Again sorry to hear about your experiences you mentioned. The SOP for blocking isles during store open hours is only to retrieve or down stock items that a customer is waiting for. There are times when say a contractor calls in an order say for drywall or lumber and he's on his way to pick it up that we will close down isles. Safety is a major concern at the HD and strictly enforced especially after Menards killed a customer. He was in a isle behind where a fork lift was operating and the fork lift pushed a pallet of tile down the opposite isle. It's the reason we have to block the two isles. The one where stocking is done with lift equipment and the isle behind. |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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Thanks Pete you have been very helpful.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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No, there isn't as long as the extra thickness is to towards the hull sides leaving the same distance between the mains for the engine. |
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Pete, is there a down side to leaving it 1-3/4?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
Thanks for the reply and explanation. For those of you that have those fancy phones, and use all those fancy features, there is a Home Depot app that may help you find items. I see customers using it frequently. BTW, my cell phone only makes phone calls!! Chris, Even though I know my store very well, I too will go to the HD web site and look up the item I'm looking for. Not so much to get a location but more so to check inventory and to see if my store even caries it. All HD's do not carry the same inventory and some may be seasonal. Like the Rhinelander store doesn't carry window air conditioners all year like Gary's down there were it's 600 degrees all year long! ![]() ![]() I also use the buy on line and pick up in store very often especially if the item is large or not in stock. When it's available and or picked it's waiting for you up front. Small it will be at the Special Service end of if large it will be at the Pro end. Mike, getting back on track with the thread, ![]() |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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I look up the aisle/shelf location/inventory status before going to HD. Saves a lot of time.
BTW, I was there once (hadn't done the presearch) & I asked the customer rep to look up an item location & they couldn't figure out how to do this! |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Just being a handful of years younger than you Jack I understand where your coming from. Kinda like to think ole El BJ is in a special place......
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Sorry for the unintended thread jack. Thanks Pete for your honest concern. HD deserves the bad review I give them when I can. Will try and answer your questions.
First off, honorable discharge means you served your duty to completion honorably. After 14 months in Vietnam and with my training time included I was released from active duty with the honorable discharge. All those released from the military get a dd214. I have that but I presented my veterans administration card that shows I am enrolled in the program that supposed to help us vets with medical issues. That's another story LOL. Glad you brought up how your store and others don't necessarily follow corporate policy. After the CT HD discontinued my discount and was was still getting it in FL I used to take my slips from Ct and get the discount reimbursed in Fl. That's a gas. My VA card is current and with photo ID so no replacement needed and so you can see how the HD has tarnished their image over what prolly was a well intentioned policy to begin with. It has become downright offensive. Really sorry for the jack here LOl. |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Funny that you brought up the layout Mike. I stopped by one of my "local" HD's (it's 50 miles away) for a toilet shut off valve. Wandered the plumbing section finally had to find someone and ask. They were not in plumbing, but rather over where the toilet display was. Was informed that there is actually 3 places in the store where they could be. Could not find the actual one I needed,didn't feel like trying to find the help again so I left. Did buy a case of Mexican Coke though so it was not a wasted stop
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