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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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After putting engine back in the 83 everything hooked and running. Carb. has been rebuilt but I noticed at idle there was fuel dripping in the 2 back throats. I don't think that is normal, could something be stuck from sitting so long??? ![]() |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11172 |
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I'd start by taking the back bowl off and looking for junk in the needle and seat assembly and checking float level. Or, from the backyard hacker's handbook.............with the engine running, whack the bowl area near the needle and seat assembly a few times with the handle of a screwdriver and sometimes that works to dislodge a piece of junk or unstick a sticking float ![]() |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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I guess there is no way to drain gas out of that bowl
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11172 |
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Oh yes there is Use a small catch container and pull one of the bottom attaching screws out to catch most of what's in there. ![]() |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I just happen to have a current picture. I just might be the only one summerizing my boat but I'm done for the season...... You can use just about any container if you cut it down,I was partial to something cool.
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JoeinNY ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-19-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5698 |
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Don't use styrofoam... I have a little plastic cup with a built in protrusion that is perfectly shaped to capture the gas out of one of those draining screws... I am sure I got it at summit or someplace like that. I am also sure that I have never once had it handy when I was removing a float bowl full of fuel.... |
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127 |
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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3774 |
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I rebuilt a couple engines in the last couple months, for the internal parts needed I purchased at Summit and Rock Auto. I know parts and they offered parts at prices my local shops could not match. Sorry to say but true. Be careful with internet searches when buying internal parts. There are a lot of low priced un proven parts for sale out there. I saw them on Amazon and Ebay.
I will share a safe list of internal engine parts and brands you can trust below. Pistons : Mahle, Sealed Power or Silvolite are good Rings: Hastings, Sealed Power or Mahle Bearings I like Clevite or Federal Mogul, other brands like ACL, King or Clemex are all second tier products Gaskets: I try to stick with Fel Pro but Victor/Mahle also have great product. Don't go cheap on gaskets, leaks are very hard to fix later. TIming: Cloyes is #1, they also box product for Sealed Power, Melling and others but the brand you want is Cloyes. Oil Pumps Melling is first choice, if you buy a Sealed Power pump Melling is in the box. Freeze Plugs Choose Brass, they don't rust out, Pioneer is a good source Sealed Power offers complete kits which use the parts listed above in the sealed power brand name. The list above assumes you are building a factory stock or close to stock engine. If you want 500 HP you may need to upgrade to other brands. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Got another problem with electric. Had a short on one of my connections and thought I fixed; now the Tach just pegs all the way to right.
Any suggestions on what to check??? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John, Does it peg with the engine running all the time or when you turn on the ignition key to run? |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Soon as I turn on key.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John,
I think you have some wires mixed up. Check that the gray sender wire is only connected to the negative coil terminal and that it's not shunted with any other wire. or terminal. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Pretty sure that is how it is connected ,but will check tomorrow
Thanks |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Get the VOM out and check after disconnecting one end of the gray wire. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Found the problem-wire colors are faded out. I think connected correct now.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Rather than "thinking", I'd again suggest:
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Found several bad connections in harness. Fix tomorrow
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Well after a couple hours rechecking and redoing connections most everything is working-except the lighted switches
![]() They have been working all the time till today??? oh well back to rechecking ![]() |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Bad fuse at the key switch, replaced with a 32v ( all I had) lights work.
Back to Tach- still pegs to right. Thought I would just take off wires at coil, still pegs when turn key on ![]() What to check now? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John, did you get the VOM out and check that gray wire. Also, disconnect the gray wire at the tach an check it for voltage when you turn the key on. Report back what you get BTW, voltage ratings on fuses are the MAX rated volts. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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I checked for continuity. Electrical really keeps me confused ![]() ![]() |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Alrighty then-here are the results
![]() Disconnected wire from Tach got a reading of 11.01 volts with key in on position. Tach is still pegging even with that wire disconnected so I must have something wrong somewhere ![]() ![]() Back to the boat |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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More cornfused now. See green notes on wiring diagram
![]() Also while checking ground when I touched the blue light wires on gauges to black ground wire they show connected ![]() ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John,
The "G" terminal on the tach should be ground. The light blue and black wires should not be connected. The light blue is the positive feed for the instrument lighting and the black is the ground for the same. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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[QUOTE=8122pbrainard] John,
The "G" terminal on the tach should be ground. **Check. There is 1 black wire and 2(connected together) black wires on the same G post. I took the 2 off and they don't have continuity to the other ground wires The light blue and black wires should not be connected. The light blue is the positive feed for the instrument lighting and the black is the ground for the same. **Check. They aren't connected anywhere I can find, but when I check the continuity they are together somehow. I guess I will take off all the blue light wires I see if I can see a difference./QUOTE] How about that red wire?? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John, What are you using to check continuity between the light blue and black? If not resistance with a VOM, then you are getting continuity through the instrument light bulbs. That red wire is the main positive feed to the dash. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Since all the grounds are daisy chained, I suspect when you took the wires off, you broke the chain. |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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I was using the meter sound to check
Don’t know how to check residence. Also the purple ignition wire is doing the same with the ground. I’m gonna stop for the day as I really not close to understanding bout brain dead Have to regroup tomorrow |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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John, Do you still have the instructions that came with the meter? If so, get them out and do some reading. On many VOM's, that sound setting is for checking diodes. Check that. The purple ignition wire also has a path to ground. Via the coil and the electric choke so, you will get the audible there too. As mentioned, get those instructions out and do some reading while you're regrouping. . ![]() |
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jterr ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: February-13-2018 Location: N. Florida Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Just a note I don't think those lights in the gauges work as I have not seen anything light up. My new switches are the things I was talking about the were lighting up.
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