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MI-nick
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Posted: April-11-2021 at 5:55pm |
i think i know the answer, but hoping someone can confirm. I just read a ton of "fuel gauge/sender" search results and couldn't find a concrete answer.
Fuel gauge was reading empty at the end of last summer on my '88 2001. I pulled the sender wire, touched it to the tank, and the gauge pegged so i assumed bad sender. Ordered an SSS/SSL unit from KUS per the recommendations here and installed it last weekend. I checked the sender before installing and it read the 240 - 33 ohms as it should. The old (original?) sender had a post in the center for the sender wire from the gauge (red) and a tab on the sender base for the "ground" (?) wire from the gauge (black). The new sender has a pink wire and a black wire. I didn't research how to wire it properly and the boat is 250 miles from home so I did my best. I first connected black to black and red to pink...gauge was showing full with key on (only 15 gallons in a 27 gallon tank...i know the volume since the tank was out of the boat and empty before this weekend). I reversed the wires and same result. At this point I knew that I didn't know what I was doing so I moved on to other things. I think (from the instructions on KUS site) that red wire from the gauge should connect to the black wire from the sender. I think the pink wire from the sender and the black wire from the gauge should both be connected to ground which i'm thinking i can use a spade connector on one of the sending unit bolts at the tank? Is that how it should go?? thanks!
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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KENO
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2 wires to hook up..........how hard can it be?
Reading their instructions. I'll agree with what you said about Black from sender to the original Red wire and the Pink from the sender to ground. Is the gauge pegged high just like when you grounded the sender wire to test it or reading around Full but not pegged? |
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MI-nick
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that's exactly what I thought Ken...how hard can it be?
when i turn the key the gauge "pegs" to full then settles just below full...can't remember exactly what happened when i grounded the sender wire last fall...
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KENO
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I think next time you're at the boat, as a place to start, it would be pretty easy to check the resistance of the sender while it's installed in the tank with it's 15 gallons of fuel..
With your 15 gallons of fuel in a 27 gallon tank and a range of 33 to 240 ohms, my math would say that your ohm reading should be somewhere in the 125 ish range. That'll at least tell you the sender is seeing a somewhat correct tank level Then at least you'll know if you should be looking at wiring or the new sender |
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MI-nick
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i checked the sender before installing and observed the correct ohm range, but I'll check as you suggested as well. it will be a couple weeks before I get back up there.
while I have you here...2 dumb questions about timing adjustment... 1. Is the proper sequence : loosen hold down bolt -> start engine -> rotate distributor until desired advance -> shut down engine -> tighten hold down bolt? 2. how loose to loosen hold down bolt? thanks!
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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KENO
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Sounds good to me on the sequence, but when you're done tightening the bolt check the timing one last time to make sure nothing changed.
Make a mark in the distributors original position, then loosen the bolt just enough to be able to rotate the distributor with a little effort Might take a couple of tries to get it If it hasn't moved in a long,long time it can be hard to rotate due to corrosion buildup. Also I can remember trying to loosen and tighten the bolt with the engine running with a wrench real close to the spinning belt. You don't want to do that since only bad things happen when the belt catches that wrench
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MI-nick
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great, thanks again! i wanna say my dad had a special curved wrench for that specific reason...
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KENO
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I have one of those curved wrenches too............. bad things still happened
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MI-nick
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well...i was up north last weekend and still couldn't get the gauge to read correctly. I connected red wire from gauge to black wire from sender per KUS instructions. I connected black wire from gauge and pink wire from sender to a common spade connector attached to one of the sender mount bolts. a few observations:
1) sender was reading 106 ohms which seems correct given the known fuel level and sender length relative to tank depth 2) gauge seems "peg" when connected as above, but finally showed ~7/8ths after a wake boarding a couple times 3) I'm seeing 5.5-6V at the red wire from gauge I'm pretty confident the sender is working and wired correctly, but it think the gauge should have 12V? need to do some more research and look into the dash wiring i think. On a positive note, I did adjust the timing without sending and wrenches flying
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MI-nick
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just to close the loop on this thread, new fuel gauge was installed a couple weeks ago and that seems to have fixed the issue. not sure if there was a sender/gauge compatibility issue or if the old gauge was toast. i put this gauge in (https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/fuel-gauge-teleflex/) which matches Ok although it's a bit larger than original. anyway, works again.
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