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    Posted: September-15-2021 at 5:30pm
Pulled the PCM engine on my Shamrock the other day in preparation of putting the GT40 in. Looked into ends of the Hi Teks to see how they are doing.  130 hours in saltwater with freshwater flush after each use, I now have a nice set of paper weights. I think I bought them in 2015 - the company had outsourced their manufacturing to China. Who knows what "stainless" they used but oem cast iron lasts longer in this environment.


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Gary,
WOW! Is the picture looking at the high end of the exhaust. Looks like a lack of cooling up there? Ether way, very disappointing.


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Yes Pete that would be looking in up at the top curve of the riser. If it was a cooling problem it would have been in the design because it always had good flow out the exhausts and the hoses are fine. Last time I drove it was about a 2 mile trip to the ramp-it would not have made it with that hole so it's been falling apart since then. The other side looks to be having the start of this issue. It lasted less time at almost triple the cost of an oem cast iron exhaust.
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Don’t get me going on cheap China crap
I have a no China product policy
Imagine if it was a important moving part
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:


Imagine if it was a important moving part

It's good that Gary didn't get water back into the engine due to the failed water jacket. 


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It is really hard to not jump in with a lengthy diatribe about the virus they manufactured!
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Gary, if you have small magnet to hand see how well it sticks may give us a handle on the grade used... my guess is its cheep 304, the less a magnet sticks the better the grade in general. 
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I'm going with a 400 series SS. Great for heat but not so much for corrosion. 400 will be very magnetic.


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You had me wondering Roger so I just went out and checked- a magnet does not even remotely stick,I even reached up inside with a magnet on a stick to check as well. Most of this below has appeared since it came home in April but now I understand why I had been starting to get discoloration on that side Shocked




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Thanks Gary for checking got me thinking now... clutching at straws now try the magnet on a weld.. rusty one if you can, they may have used poor grade wire.   
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Saltwater is a heck of a thing and those aren’t thick - do you have any zink left on the plugs?   I am pretty sure one of mine the zink fell off quite quickly.   Not a lot of room for error on these things - I have in my possession a set of these off a freshwater big block boat that were ran without water and the exhaust Tubes are basically all garbage inside.
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Gary, you have me going now.. just been down and looked at some of china turbo headers I have for 350 chevy  was going to convert to marine by adding a jacket, as you say magnets will not stick on straights, but try it on a bend it will on the inner rads were the SS has compressed to form the bend, still think there 304 SS  as you can see the magnets stick and to the flanges /transition tube are as good as steel. 
Not much help for you but great feed back thanks for sharing.


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Sorry Roger Wink but I guess it's better now than after you go through that work!
Joe here are the zincs,top ones are the originals which I replaced with the bottom ones just a couple of seasons ago. I'm just flabbergasted thinking that the SS ones were the answer.


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Gary, may worth an email to HI-TEK they say there stand by a 5 year limited warranty if you take the pandemic off your just in.. as I said its the collector tube at the top that's very poor SS on my set and looks you have the same should not rust like that. 

Give it a few more years and we be making our own sets once the hand held fibre laser welders come down in cost... a USA  Light Weld is on my wish list.

Good luck with it. 
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Hi Tec should acknowledge lack of quality assurance since they surely are responsible for having their supplier make them from the proper alloy.

Blaming China isn’t the answer. It’s the responsible party that failed to either specify, qualify or assure the product meets requirements. I’d call Hi Tec and ask them if they’re good for replacing these.

Will they work with the GT 40 as well (I assume)?
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