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Tim,
Modifications look great! Can't wait to hear that thing. Very nice work.

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Tim; Yes I just got back on last nite. Did not catch this thread right away. But now that I see it.........what can I say that hasn't been said yet? You know what kind of job you did here and so do the rest of us. Unbelievable! The look of the Hi-Techs and the stainless pipes alone would assure that I would never close the cover. In fact I just might leave the cover on the dock. The thinking and effort that went into the pipes and transome is impressive. Just wish I could be at GL to hear her run.

Just rolled back thru the pics again. Wow! I am honored just to get my name mentioned in this post!

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Thanks again guys. I thought you might enjoy that, John. Only having driven it so far (and not having heard it from shore), Id say the sound is comparable to a '70 Mustang with a Holman Moody 302 that used to be on our lake. Others have told me its considerably louder.

I got the opportunity to drive Keith's new '94 last week (sweet ride, by the way!) and I had almost forgotten what my exhaust used to sound like- it certainly doesnt sound like that anymore!
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Nice job. The HiTeks and the tubes look great. Where'd you get the tips?
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besides sounding louder is there any other advantage from going to single to dual outlets?
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Originally posted by Luchog Luchog wrote:

besides sounding louder is there any other advantage from going to single to dual outlets?


Well, it looks cool too

Flow should be much improved, so the engine can breathe better. In addition to the increased cross sectional area (single 4" = 12.6 sq in, dual 3.5" = 19.2 sq in), the invertaflow didnt exactly promote the best velocity:





I borrowed these pics (from Jameski?), I didnt cut my muffler apart.
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Does one need another reason beyond louder and looking cool?

Don't think so.

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Wow, Tim, that's awesome looking. The great thing is that besides the two exhaust pipes sticking out of the transom, everything on the outside looks factory. Don't they call this a "sleeper"? A lot of TLC has gone in to your project and it will all pay off. I can't wait to get a ride.

BTW, watch out for Larry's Ski Tique. I was on it Saturday and we were hitting 52 MPH @5,200 RPM. I thought the flux capacitor was going to kick in and we'd time travel.

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TRBenj, you wouldn't happen to still have your invertraflow? I would be very interested in purchasing it if you were keen to part with it?
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Originally posted by mrobinson mrobinson wrote:

TRBenj, you wouldn't happen to still have your invertraflow? I would be very interested in purchasing it if you were keen to part with it?


I do still have the muffler, and its in pretty good shape. I cant think of any reason I should keep it- its certainly not going back on this boat. Not sure how shipping to Australia would work, but shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com
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Tim, There's a guy on the2001 looking for one too. I did give him the link to this thread.


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Tim,

That project looks amazing. I am thinking about putting SS tips on my 86 ski nautique. I found on eddie marine 3.5" SS tips that look like they taper down in size on the inside.

What size is the existing exhaust hole on the nautique 2001s? I think they are 3"? And so if the ID of the exhaust hose is 3" does it flex enough for me to fit a 3.5" exhaust tip into it?

Also is it necessary to remove the gas tank from the boat in order to do this project?

Here is the link to eddie marine http://eddiemarine.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=11406&c=61

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Too bad those tips werent available 4 months ago, they would have made life a little simpler for me.

Youre correct, I believe the stock exhaust size is 3" on the 2001. You dont need to remove the gas tank to replace the tips, though it would make it a lot easier to have it out when it comes time to install the new hardware.

Theres no way you'll fit a 3.5" tip into a 3" hose- they dont stretch at all. Id say your best bet is to find some tips that are 3". I only went bigger since I already had one 4" hole. That would save you from drilling new holes, and you can reuse all your hoses. If Eddie Marine doesnt carry 3" stuff, there are other places that do.
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any vids or sound clips?
im wanting to delete the mufflers on my 82 SN2001.

my daily driver is a drag car, i like making noise
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I really don't think rubber hose all the way out is much louder than the stock "mufflers". The copper and SS pipes make noise!
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

I really don't think rubber hose all the way out is much louder than the stock "mufflers". The copper and SS pipes make noise!


Agreed that a section of pipe in place of the mufflers would probably maximize the sound...
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Tim, if you're comparing your boat with the dual SS pipe + hose to a stock boat with all hose that is not even close.

I am talking about 3" hose from transom to cast iron manifold not being much louder than with the stock through mufflers.
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Just seen this thread.

I just have to say that looks awesome! I wish I had the nerve to cut a 4 inch hole into the back of my boat. Nice looking work Tim, I bet that sounds great.

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On the '80...it is rubber hose all the way to the back....and it is loud.

On my '81 my brother had a guy at work make him copper tubes. Now that boat just sang. The copper gave it a much different sound. I still have the copper tubes up in my attic if I ever find the time to add them on to my boat.

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Wouldn't that mean you would have to go under the engine cover...
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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:


On my '81 my brother had a guy at work make him copper tubes. Now that boat just sang. The copper gave it a much different sound. I still have the copper tubes up in my attic if I ever find the time to add them on to my boat.

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John, yes, that must have had a deeper, throaty sound I'd imagine. Copper, huh, they must be worth a pretty penny.

By the way, John, my Nautique is finally running smooth and strong. It's well broken in now. Hopefully can get you out in your old boat again someday. Still looks like a million bucks. Your buddy took great care of it!!!

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What about stainless vs. rubber hose??? i have the 2 1/2" pipe at work to use and wondered if it would make it sound(perform) any better? I may have to try it just to see!

any thoughts?

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Paul, I have the original 2&1/2" copper on my 312. All I can say (because I've never had all rubber) is it sounds normal for a 60's V8. No where near the sound of a Holman Moody - Just pretty mellow. Hopefully, the stainless pipe you have is one of the thinner tubings and not pipe (scd. 40). I wouldn't go putting a heavy wall pipe in your boat!


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Originally posted by Nautique2001 Nautique2001 wrote:


By the way, John, my Nautique is finally running smooth and strong. It's well broken in now. Hopefully can get you out in your old boat again someday. Still looks like a million bucks. Your buddy took great care of it!!!
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It looks way nicer now...from what I can remember from your pictures. Glad to hear you are finally enjoying it a bit. Would love to take a ride and drive it for old times sake. I remember how excited we were when it was new. My friend Bob bought it the same time I got my yellow '78 that was used.

How is Patricia doing? And...how is your barefooting coming?

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Pete,

Haven't put the stainless in yet......just wanted to know opinions.....(especially yours)about what it would do for the boat. if i do put in stainless it would be thin wall.

See ya in a couple of weeks or so....

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I was wondering if you have any videos or audio clips of how your boat sounds these days with all the modifications you have done?

I tried to search the basic stuff on youtube to see if your boat popped up but it didn't. Do you happen to have any?
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Nope, no video or sound clips yet. Maybe one of these days.
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What someone needs to figure out is how to make a single exhaust boat sound like the one linked in my sig (or close to it). As unique as what TRBenji did, I would not feel comfortable doing it.
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Originally posted by P71_CrownVic P71_CrownVic wrote:

What someone needs to figure out is how to make a single exhaust boat sound like the one linked in my sig (or close to it). As unique as what TRBenji did, I would not feel comfortable doing it.

It shouldnt be very difficult to do- just remove the muffler and add a Y pipe and some reducers (3" or 3.5" in, 4" out) and run the extra hose.

Heres one example of a 4" in/out SS Y-pipe: http://www.mandrelbendingsolutions.com/servlet/Detail?no=446
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It would sound like the exhaust in your signature p71. Its just a smallblock with stock mufflers, that did very little for reducing the sound. The 2to1 mufflers make those boats silent IMO and rob them of the great sound that these motors naturally make.


I however am more partial to Big Block sound...see signature

I bet tims sounds great with all that stainless steel in there.
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