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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BuffaloBFN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-19-2007 at 2:06pm
I'm almost gritting my teeth from here LMAO!!!

I think some call that manipulative behavior?!!?


...and you could add a surcharge for a waterproof output shaft?!!?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eric lavine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-19-2007 at 1:48pm
you hit the nail on the head, i grit my teeth sometimes, but i divide things up in 2 ways:   1. necessity 2 Pleasure
necessitys are everyday things such as milk for the kids, gas in the car
Pleasure: boats, Merecedes Benz's, 5 carrot diamond rings
Once i realized this after that point I never have a problem handing a guy like above a bill and it comes back to learning to read people, my first conversation with him was that his trans is broke and my second conversation was how broke he was
Btw.... since your a hippie have you ever went to a Pagen fest? my brother was told everyone walks around by choice completely nude and he had a chance to work one of the booths with a friend and he said clothes were definitly an option
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I have several differnent takes on that, and I may have missed your original point...but I got it now!

You should take pitty on him...his love is money and 'things'. That makes for a sad and lonely life. Maybe with the Lord's help, he'll someday realize that what comes around...goes around.

Your last post reminds me...went to Jamaica recently with Ms. Buffalo for the Jamm in Jamaica concerts(05). Their greeting is 'respect mon', and that's all they want. On the trip home, most of our group didn't care for the locals; and IMHO it's because they didn't treat the people they met as people?!!?    
We came home with several personal invitations to dinner and were shown some parts of Jamaica that the others missed!

Full circle, he wanted something from you and didn't care ABOUT you!

Charge him a fair price...while you're saying a prayer for him.

My signature line is from Donna the Buffalo's song 'riddle of the universe'   ...and yes, we're looking forward to Magfest and Shakori Hills!!!

Hippies 'till we die!

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no other way to live...


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BFN, oh he can afford it believe me, I guess the point was that the working class guy like me and you never bicker the price, the bigger the boat the more the bickering...thats why they have the big boats
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BuffaloBFN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-18-2007 at 3:32pm
I do high end wood work...I take a 50% deposit or I will not start. I also take a 3/4 payment when the projoct is close to finishing. The truth is that my customers have the 'coin' and usually pay up front and are willing to wait for quality.

I work on reputation as you do...if he can't afford the repair at what you think it should cost, then he may be over his head with that boat.

All that said, if you(eric, or another member here) sent me a 1919 victorola, you'd get a break, but I wouldn't do the work beyond my expense.

If a guy has a boat like that and can't afford it...I expect he has other probs as well!

side note...10-18 is super happy! went out this am and tore it up!   ...thanx man

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eric lavine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August-18-2007 at 2:10pm
those of you in business for yourself may understand this, its the guy's like me and you who work half days, 7:00am to 7:00 pm who when you hire someone to do work for you, when the guy is finished you ask how much do i owe you? and alot of these guys will kick you or your helper a $100.00 tip for getting the job done. What brings this up is i have a guy broke down from Detroit in his 44ft Carver and basically he is at my mercy, Now to own a 44ft Carver you have to have some coin laying around. and with no prejiduce the wife has the star around her neck (this is where to reading people comes into play)The first thing the guy says is how soon can you get my boat fixed so we can continue our month long voyage (in which he'll probably burn 10g's in gas) now here is where it gets good, he's goes on to explaining on how he is now retired and on a fixed income and doesnt think he can afford the boat any longer and this may be his last trip. (what this means is he is trying to prime me early to reflect the price on the bill) Well having a little "star" in my blood Im starting to counter prime him with the way i see it... well if Caterpillar does this job you'll have to dry dock the boat and cut the deck...you'll have to pay a $1.50 a mile and so on, so to make a long story short when all is done and said i will figure out my bill the way it should be and tack on an additional 25% because I know when I give him the bill he will insist on a discount.....and usually its about 25%
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