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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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I stored my boat at a family friend's cottage for a couple weeks and with good intentions they used a little extra wood sealer/varnish from the dock to seal my swim platform!!! Apparently they don't know about not sealing teak! This is nasty, oil-based, thick sealer. Can I chemically strip it or will that wreck the teak?
They tried to do me a favor, so I can't fault them, but I'd never, ever seal my platform! Good intentions, but poor execution. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21169 |
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I used some orange stripping gel from Home Depot on my platform, so I dont think you'll harm the teak. Not all of it came off, so I resorted to disassembly and sanding- hopefully you wont have to go that far!
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79nautique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7872 |
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sorry to hear that but man you never mess with someone else's boat unless they tell you too. Not sure on the striping if it would hurt it or not, maybe having it sanded down would be better. I know where I'm from there is a shop that has a large thickness sander that my buddy used on his platform but the damage might all ready be done and there might not be any way to save it hopefully there is.
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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I don't know if I can even sand it. It's still a little tacky.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joel, Get it off the boat and then use whatever paint and varnish remover with take off the coating. Don't worry about hurting the teak. You won't. Pressure wash it, let it dry, use a teak cleaner/britener on it and then a non organic teak oil. It will look better than new!
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The Lake ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-13-2005 Location: Lk Winnebago MO Status: Offline Points: 1157 |
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Joel,
Don't use a stripper like Bix, find a product that is made to strip outdoor decks, like Wolmans Deck Stripper. There are other brands, the large box stores probably have them. These products work best when the weather is between 70 and 90 degrees. Dampen the platform with water, put on the stripper, let it sit about 10 minutes, and like Pete said, you will need a power washer, wash it with the grain, and don't get too close or it will chew up the wood. I'd also cover the stern of the boat with a drop cloth. Chuck |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Chuck, What is your concern with a methyline cloride based stripper like Bix or Zip Strip? Just wondering because I have done my fair share of stripping and have yet to find anything that works as good.
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SeattleFordFan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-18-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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To much information!! |
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Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money. 1980 Ski Nautique |
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The Lake ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-13-2005 Location: Lk Winnebago MO Status: Offline Points: 1157 |
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Pete (imho),
I helped my son start a deck cleaning business to work his way through college. Deck strippers are very effective, cheaper, biodegradable, and less caustic than methylene chlorides (although you still need to cover skin and eyes). They help lift off oil or water based stains, although a pressure washer greatly aids the process. Deck strippers are specifically designed to remove these products on exterior wood surfaces without damaging the wood. Methylene chlorides would be needed for varnishes and oil or acrylic based paints, which I don't think is an issue here. I'm not saying Bix would not work, just that there are other products that are available. Chuck |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Thanks Chuck. I'm used to stripping paint,varnish and filler stains Travis!!!. Joel however did mention they used a "sealer/varnish" so the Bix may be needed.
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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It's some sort of sealer/varnish. I got a glance at the can, which said sealer, but the surface is glossy and thick. A bit oily to the touch, so it feels different than a straight varnish or polyurethane-style coating. Deck sealers are certainly not my area of expertise.
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jbear ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
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When is it gonna be "between 70 & 90" there again Chuck......June?
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The Lake ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-13-2005 Location: Lk Winnebago MO Status: Offline Points: 1157 |
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I'll have you know Mr. Florida ![]() In the mornings there's just enough briskness to the air to put a jump in your step and the lining in your motorcycle jacket. Chuck |
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NCH2OSKI ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: September-03-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 49 |
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Joel hate to hear that about your teak, grab a mat out of their truck and throw on your platform, you sure dont want to get that stuff on your ski! Good luck getting it off there.
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[QUOTE=8122pbrainard] Thanks Chuck. I'm used to stripping.
I'm so ashamed Pete,you make it too easy |
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jbear ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
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If its glass you oughta be on it..thats why you live right there.
You can visit here in a month or so...or during Spring Training(!) and I'll take you for a ski. Hint...Spring Training is in March. We been beating up on the sox enough to keep you guys outa last. To hot here to ride the bike. It hasn't been outa the garage in a month. But I will be riding it in December and January. john |
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69 Mustang ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-26-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 402 |
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Not a big fan of pressure washing any wood.
From marine store How NOT to clean teak... "With a powerwasher - Powerwashers just blast away dirt and expose raw wood. Not only is this rough on your teak, it also doesn't kill the mold and mildew spores in the wood." I know you are not dealing with the "mold and mildew spores in the wood", but still - pressure washing beats the hell out of the wood. Use a chemical stripper designed to remove whatever your "helpful" friends applied. Let me be the first to state that I'm no expert, but I do have a little experience with teak. Not to disparage any of the suggestions, but some seem to sort of fit with one of my sig lines. Oh, and as far as I know, Amelia Earhart never cleaned a swim platform. Mike |
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jbear ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
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Mike: Bet there isn't to many guys on here that know who she was anyhow. Read alot of books on AE...your signature line got my attenction first time I saw it.
Did you send off your tranny? john |
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69 Mustang ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-26-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 402 |
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John,
I remember that you introduced yourself because of that sig line when I was a newbie. Thanks to you and all the board members who have helped me out since. I have not sent the trans out yet - it still works fine in forward and there are a couple weekends left so I'm going to push it as long as I can. Based on the magic I have seen come out of Ohio, I figure I may as well bring the entire boat to Eric. I'll leave him a credit card and a promise to give him my first born. Hopefully that will have me back on the water come April (just kidding Eric!). BTW, we need more women with the spirit of AE, glad I found one. Thanks, Mike ps - M3Fan, my humblest apologies for the threadjack |
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jbear ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-21-2005 Location: Lake Wales FL. Status: Offline Points: 8193 |
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Right you are. Man was AE ahead of her time or what?
Make sure there is no limit on that card. They don't see to many cards like that up there in Brunstucky. Me too M3Fan...sorry. john |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Just to follow up on this- I finally stripped of this finish today. Used Ace brand paint stripper. Applied it, waited 15 minutes, and the finish came off in ribbons with a plastic scraper. Ribbons. Went through 2 rounds of that, then cleaned up with mineral spirits, let dry, and hit it with 60 grit and then 150 grit with the orbital. Looks great now.
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