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    Posted: October-02-2007 at 2:14pm
I'm not trying to bash JetPilot, but recently a kid died while wakeboarding wearing an "A-10 Attack". It is a very slim design, COMP vest that is not approved. We've had brief discussions on here before about this topic, but wanted you make you aware that if you get knocked out (no air in lungs) you can still SINK wearing one of those thin comp vests. I have one and rarely wear it anymore. Please be aware of the risks of wearing a non-approved vest. I've seen many teenagers and other parents who might not know what they are getting into.
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Every now and again there are a some kids on our lake who ski/board without a vest, drives me crazy.

I often wonder if a BF Suit would keep you afloat while unconscious? Perhaps we could test this with Johnny this week.
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This is why I always wear my nerdy USCGA vests. No need to look cool in the coroner's van.
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Quinner,

Is Johnny going to drink himself unconscious or you going to knock him out?
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CQ,

I was knocked unconscious once while barefooting and my suit did keep me a float, "FACE DOWN". An botched front to back , ruptured an ear drum and knocked me out for just a few seconds. I think sucking in the lake water snapped me out of it pretty quickly. I skied with some real good partners and they knew without a hand wave after a crash that it was not good and were back on me instantly.

That stuff can be eye opening, just like having a close call on the road makes you turn the radio down.
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The hand wave is a great habit to get your fellow skiers accustomed to. In show skiing, there is nothing more important than the hand wave. If, after a fall, the skier doesn't wave, and look at the judges, everything stops, and the safety boat is on them. If they just forget, they are docked points. Everyone we recreationally ski with knows that is our rule.
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Two hands is really the best way to do it. I've done a one hand wave almost instinctively while still falling- it becomes routine. If you can signal with both hands, there is no doubt that you are OK.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Two hands is really the best way to do it. I've done a one hand wave almost instinctively while still falling- it becomes routine. If you can signal with both hands, there is no doubt that you are OK.


I agree, I've waved and then realized that that hurt more than I thoguh it did.

Anyway, I've recovered fully from the concussion although for a while I did repeat myself without realizing it.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Two hands is really the best way to do it. I've done a one hand wave almost instinctively while still falling- it becomes routine. If you can signal with both hands, there is no doubt that you are OK.


I agree, I've waved and then realized that that hurt more than I thoguh it did.

Anyway, I've recovered fully from the concussion although for a while I did repeat myself without realizing it.
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Originally posted by skicat skicat wrote:

Quinner,

Is Johnny going to drink himself unconscious or you going to knock him out?


Greg,

You have seen Johnny in action, so you know he's a trooper, to save time we are just going to go ahead and knock him out.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Two hands is really the best way to do it. I've done a one hand wave almost instinctively while still falling- it becomes routine. If you can signal with both hands, there is no doubt that you are OK.


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Hey Hollywood- Thanks for brining this up. Great thread- there are many good safety tips in here.
I always wave (one handed) to signal I'm okay. Good idea to make that a rule for everyone.
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Tull,

your right about the signaling. We started doing this in the past two summers. Really is a usefull way of say your ok, espcially while learning to foot over this past summer.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Two hands is really the best way to do it. I've done a one hand almost instinctively- it becomes routine. with both hands, there is no doubt


Originally posted by bkhallpass bkhallpass wrote:


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I'm big on safety as well.

The rule in our boat (to signal you're ok) is both hands clasped together over your head.

I know alot of people think this is going overboard... but good safety practices can save lives. You never know when the unthinkable could happen.

Here's to safe boating and watersports.

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Food For Thought......
There has not been ,in recorded times, a drowning in Louisiana of a person that was wearing a PFD....
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I know or knew 2 people who got killed in boating accidents, one guy raced and that comes with the sport, the other guy hit the side of a barge on the Ohio at night, that one was stupidity.
how many close calls have you had??????
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had a few close calls on the river with dad in the younger yrs...long story short, sitting their doing some drifting and around the corner came a barge..guys laying on the whistle and our old trusty boat wouldnt start..ended up busting both paddles trying to get the hell out of the way..just missed us by about 10 ft..too close of a call for me!
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In my youth I was part of a barge crew up in Alaska. We would bring the barges into the canneries to switch out the full shipping containers for empty ones. The fishermen would sometimes anchor up their boats in our way and go to town for some R and R. One of my jobs was to weild the axe in the bow of a small skiff and cut any boats loose that were in the way before the barge ran over the top of em. Always enjoyed that. Better to find your boat the next day drifting with the tide than at the bottom of Bristol Bay. Am sure we ticked off a few people, but what can you do.              
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   I just read in the paper today they are finally pressing charges against a guy up here who killed two people earlier this summer.Took them a while,but they finaly completed the accident reconstruction.Turns out this guy was travelling at 45 mph at night,in a 32 ft boat with twin 435s.He hit a 16 foot Glaspar with an older couple in it.Ran em right over.They said you could see where the twin props ripped right across the seats. Took a few days to recover the bodies and the boat sank.He and his passenger were also ejected and his boat came to rest 166 feet onto the shore(obviously a lanyard was not being worn).And yes,you guessed it.....he was intoxicated.


On the lifevest subject,there is a new WSIA ad promoting life jacket use in the Dec.07 issue of wakeboarding magazine.It is a full page ad depicting what appears to be a law enforcement vessel pulling up to a body floating face down in the water.The ad reads..

   'When you wakeboard, your body can tavel at 40 mph, can hit the water with 3000 pounds of force, and- without a life jacket- can sink in 5 seconds.'
    The good news:
    3 days later, your dead body will float.


   It's too bad they have to resort to this type of ad to try to get people to use a little common sense.Sorry for the long post


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In the early eighties when I used to ski heavily ,My budy came back around to get me and a friend , he came in a little hot . He was a lot close and cut the throttle back before turning. I had enough time to kick off the bottom of the boat and swim under water (with my life jacket on) for as long as I could hold my breath . Very close call !!!

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