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    Posted: February-22-2004 at 3:39pm
Is anybody running a General Motors HEI style
distributor on there 351W??? I am about to
order one for mine, just wondering how well it
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i would see if she'll fit. i think some dizzy's have clearance problems on aftermarket intakes. i'll post on the winsor forum, but what intake are you using?
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searching on the winsor forum came up blank, so i posted your question.

do the weights spin the right way in an hei for a ricky motor?
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Probably great if you got a Chevy, Last time I looked they weren't the same. With all the dist out there why go there, for instance there are two distrubutors for after market manifolds for Ford, for clearance when or if you make changes. The dist gear certainley won't fit. If they did fit the gear has to be changed and the hole for the roll pin won't fit. Be sure you use the right coil for the dist or all is for naught.
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Ford distrubutors turn the same way right or left counter clockwise.
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i just didn't know which way a chevy goes.
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This is probably the best ignition system
money can buy (within resonable budget)
check it out cc junkies....
http://www.performancedistributors.com/marinedui.htm
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Not bad,be sure you can get a opposite rotation gear.
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I would double check and make sure the gear is correct standard rotation and reverse rotation 351W the dist. spins the same direction but the gears are different.
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I think I mentioned that a post ago. Better to be be doubly sure I guess.
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I was just trying to point out the difference in the gears not rotation, sorry. the system does look pretty cool though.
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The distributor in a FORD LH or RH rotation
engine both spin the same way (counter clockwise) the gear on the distributor is different from a LH and RH rotation engine. DUI has a gear for our reverse rotation engines. My distributor should be here sometime this week. David is the man I delt with at DUI, and I told him that he may have some interested Correct Craft owners calling him.....?

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I have/had a 5 year old Prestolite which took a dump on me. It took me a month of partial downtime and replacing everything else electrical before a old codger hanging in NAPA told me to look for a broken advance spring in the dist. It was. Got a replacement spring, installed it, but it still didn't run right, breaking down at anything above 2500rpm. Got tired of it and pulled one from another boat. Then I was told later that I should have replaced both springs. Who's the expert on this? I know squat. I hate trashing a 5 year old dist, with maybe 300 hours on it.    
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I rum mine locked, eliminates all curve problems. When you start it it will be full advance at any Rpm. Full comes in at 2500 anyway. Sounds like something else is wrng, check cap , high energy dist eat caps, among other things.
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Msd does make a marine distibutor, however not with the opposite rotation gear, you have to buy one from dealer or whomever and have it changed as the hole does't line up.
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MSD does not make a marine grade for the 351W at this time in a year maybe from what they have told me. Currently they only have a chevy and 351C. Mallory makes a reverse and standard rot for the 351W in an electronic version the numbers are YLU-554DV for a rev or YLU-554CV for std. you will need to use a promaster series coil #30450 and no ballast restor. If you have a MSD blaster II coil it will burn up the electronics that are use for this series dist.
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SS-201 Bill,
I did replace everything, however this wasn't an HEI dist, just a points type. I replaced the cap, rotor, points, condenser; did I leave anyone out, before finding the broken spring. How do you lock the advance?
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OOPS made a mistake MSD does not make a MODERN ELECTRONIC DIST. for the small block ford, only the big block ford. I guess if you prefer the old point style and have a dwell meter and like adjusting your timing a lot. Than thats the set up for you. Me personally I would rather set it and not worry about it for several years. Then again if you are the type that leaves the ignition on with-out the motor running than I would not use a modern electronic dist either becuase you will burn up the electronics and be stranded. Or you could keep a replacement module on board for when it does go out on you.

For the rest of you who would like to lock the mechanical advance in a set position it isn't very hard to do. Remove the plate the points are attached to so that you have access to the advance weights and springs. You will notice that around the post that the springs are attached to there is a window or hole in the plate arounf the post. This allows for the mechanical advance weights to rotate the plate and advance it. All you have to do is use something that prevents the post from moving inside of this area, tack weld, J-B weld, a screw would work. Don't recommend doing this, unless all you ever do is full throtle but it's your choice.

Then again I doubt that any of you have ever designed a modern ignition system for GM either. Put I have.
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Hymn, I wonder what I have on mine, says MSD on my 351 Windsor.
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Well quess I will have humble myself as everything else, windsor stuff is diappearing, You are right 351C-460
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everything is switching over to chevy blocks with standard rotation. The 351W rev. rot is pretty much a classic already.

Thanks to Discount Inboard Marine, Jasper, Mallory and Comp Cams I was able to keep mine the way Correct Craft built it.
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I'm sure there are other ways to make a rev rot MSD dist by taking parts from here and there to get you what you need and make it work. I just prefer to buy something that is already designed for the proper application and that the next guy that owns the boat can figure out when it wares out and needs replaced.
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Ive had my MSD for years.
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points style?
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we put one of those msd in car dial timing adjustments in a high compression camaro to save the starter. (i don't know how if they are up to the riggors of a marine enviroment.) kinda like having your cake.......dial the timing to atc to start then set the total advance once she warmed.
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tryan, good to here from you again. I've seen that style and if you we're racing that would work great. Really all you have to do to swith an automotive dist. to marine is put in flame arrestor screens in the vents. I guess what someone has been missing is an electronic not points style dist. MSD makes a points style marine 351w put not an electroinc version. It's not hard to figure out that it is a points style concidering that the mechanical advance is locked in place.
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No mine is electronic, with H-6 Crane CD ignition with a DEC 9500 Crane controller with a LX 92 Crane coil.
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Thought it was MSD.    And the spark plug wires are connected to what? A point style distributor with fixed mechanical advance and which is also used as a triggering device to fire the cd ign box with optional control for advance and rev limiting? Seems like a bulky system for a CD ign system.

We always had our coil intagrated in to the diecast housing of our CD system that was used on the old Chevy Ilmore Engines that Penske, Rahal and Newman-Haas racing bought from us,(Delco-Remy), will that's what it was called back then, now it's part of DELPHI and moved to kokomo and Ilmore is now Ford.

Anyway I don't want to send $600+ on a CD ign system and worry about having to mount all of the boxes all over the boat. Give me a modern drop-in system that looks stock and cost half the price. I think there called sleepers in street rod world.
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It is A MSD. END OF LINK
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