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koswimmer1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-02-2014 Location: Chattanooga, Tn Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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Hello all,
I bought a 1980 Ski Nautique almost a year ago. It sat for almost ten years before that. In spite of that, it seems to be in decent shape. I had the stringers replaced. Carb rebuilt. I'm working through some continued carb issues... it keeps sucking in the gaskets. We've been on the water now for a total of about three hours since I bought it and been towed back to dock once. Frustrating. I'm looking to get the thing up and running reliably. I grew up skiing behind a little 19' Baretta and envying the Nautiques. Now I have one and want it to be the main summertime activity for our family and what my four year old daughter learns to ski behind. I'm just saying hello to everyone and looking forward to picking your brains as I get this thing restored. I'd love to see some pictures of the same boat with trim details if anyone has them. I plan to get the carb conquered and then work on the interior over the winter. Thank you in advance for any wisdom and insight. k |
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john b ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-06-2011 Location: lake Sweeny Status: Offline Points: 3241 |
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Check out the diaries and reference sections. You can find a lot of photos and good information there. There are many knowledgeable people here and they have answered all of my questions. This is an amazing site. I would love to see a few photos..
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Kevin,
Welcome to CCfan. Yes, we'd all like to see pictures! I'm also curious about you having the stringers done. Extent of replacement? Material used?Foam or no foam? Cost? |
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koswimmer1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-02-2014 Location: Chattanooga, Tn Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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Hey,
Stringers were replaced from about a foot from the transom to just under the drivers seat. no foam. the guy that did it for me does all the fiberglass work for several of the local boat dealerships and marinas around here. he was adamant that the wood going back in needed to be the same as what came out (although im not sure i agree with that..) so the stringers are fir. have you guys ever heard of perinneal wood? its a brand made by one of the spin offs of kodak. treated with acetic acid and has a 30 year below grade warranty. seems like that would be a great product. its hard to find here in the southeast and even harder for me to get my customers to pay for, but i like it. (i work on houses. wish i knew more about boats) k |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Kevin,
That's for filling us in. Any treated wood is avoided due to it not being compatible with the resin system. A CPES (clear penetrating epoxy sealer) is recommended and a great start for the epoxy resin. Yes, I forgot to ask what resin he used. Hopefully it was epoxy. Yes on the Douglas Fir. Don't forget the pictures. ![]() |
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Donald80SN ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: January-12-2009 Location: Denver, NC Status: Offline Points: 3896 |
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I too had the carb rebuilt on my 80 my a person that really knew Holley Carbs, last spring, and I also still had problems after the rebuild. It was expensive, but I sent my carb to Carolina Carb Specialities in Wilmington, NC. Butch remanufactured the carb. It looked like a new one after he was done and it now works great. It was almost plug and play. The thing that I like about Butch is that he has a flow bench to simulate an engine. Once he rebuilds the carb, he can test it on the bench. He runs mineral spirits through the carb to simulate gas. There is also a place in Jacksonville Florida , National Carb, that many on this site use. They also test the carb on an actual engine. Butch found out that my rear float was out of spec (too heavy) and this was making my carb flood. I inspected it my hand and saw no cracks and could not feel any gas in the float, but it was a few grams off spec. I even had the desirable float material and it was still bad.
If I had to do it over again, I would just purchase a new carb because the new carbs have the tube on the bottom for the vacuum tube. My carb is old and I run the spacer with the tube for vacuum. With the new carb, I would then run a wedge to make the carb more level and pull vacuum from the tube on the bottom of the carb. This would make float adjustments easier to perform due to taking the angle out of the engine. Some on this site have had needle and seat issues with new out of the box Holley Carbs so this is why I went with Carolina Carb in Wilmington, NC. I am just a hobby guy so be careful taking my advice. Donald |
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rebel skier ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-17-2014 Location: Middle Tenn Status: Offline Points: 776 |
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Congratulations on the Ski Nautique. I look forward to hearing you have the carb issue sorted out.
Like you, as a kid the family had two Baretta's. I had a lot of fun in those boats, but I so know what you mean about envying the Nautiques. As soon as the carb issue if fixed, your will have your cure! |
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cbr1000dude ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-23-2011 Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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I had carb flooding issues, dripping into carb, and the cause was too much fuel pressure. This should be the first thing checked, and is often the last.
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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Congrats on the boat, look forward to seeing pics. Now, when you say "sucking in the gaskets" are you talking about the carburetor spacer gasket http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RM0054B ? |
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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I've had carb issues too for too long. Mainly minor but annoying. I'm tired of chasing problems and fiddling with having it rebuilt so ordering a brand new one tomorrow from Summit. Them and Jegs seem to have best prices, just an FYI.
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koswimmer1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-02-2014 Location: Chattanooga, Tn Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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interesting that you mention carb flooding. i feel like this is the main issue. i rented a pressure guage from auto zone to check it but it would read low enough to register. the pump shoots a ton of gas. looking for a low pressure guage to see what im getting.
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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if you bought a new carb already a fuel pump is probably cheaper than setting up a guage
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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koswimmer1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-02-2014 Location: Chattanooga, Tn Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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the space gasket is the one getting sucked in. my thoughts on a solution were to change out the bolts for the carb to longer ones and use a thicker carb gasket that wouldn't get sucked in. does this make sense. thicker and wider as well. when i installed the carb after having it rebuilt, the gaskets i used were barely wide enough to seal=all the way around.
any insight on the best place to purchase a new (my third) set of gaskets and get the dimensions that i need? autozone and o'rielly's were a bust. nice talking to you guys about this stuff. i talk to my wife about it and she says to sell the boat. that would be like giving up. cant do that. k |
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koswimmer1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-02-2014 Location: Chattanooga, Tn Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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thanks. havent started humting parts yet for the boat so dont exactly know where to buy. figured id get that info here...
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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something doesnt sound right.. i have never seen a base gasket get sucked in unless it isnt squashed down. tell me the setup?
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Auto zone? Yup, that's a problem for sure! What range did they lone to you? Hopefully you have the option of not going to that "auto supply" again. I hate Auto Zone!!! |
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Donald80SN ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: January-12-2009 Location: Denver, NC Status: Offline Points: 3896 |
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You can get gaskets from Discount inboard marine or AKA www.skidim.com. use discount code Malibu for a 10% discount. Also you can try correct craft parts.com and Nautique Parts.com.
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cbr1000dude ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-23-2011 Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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Yeah, a perfect carb will still flood if your fuel pump is putting out too much pressure. My stock pump pegged the gauge at 10 psi, so I got a Holly pump. It still flooded at 7 psi. So I got a Holly fuel pressure regulator that was adjustable with a nut and bolt, the cheapo dial one leaked and was inconsistent. Now at 4 psi, it works perfectly. This is on a 650 cfm for a 454, but a 600 won't take too much psi either. |
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