’83 "2001" New Problems

Oh man! Important info I need to add. Your engine is probably a "reverse rotation engine" meaning you should run the wires in the opposite direction of those shown in the PIC I referenced. This is crucial and I am considering pulling down my post. The pic I referenced is for an automobile engine!!!!!!! If you wire your engine according to the pic I posted your engine could be damaged!!!!!!! I am going to edit my above post.

I was hoping not to have to take the distributor out, or loosen it, thus disturbing timing in that manner. Let me know if my assumptions are incorrect. I do have a timing light and dwell meter to check the settings.

You should definately get the electronic conversion kit. Your distributor plate and points are full of rust. The conversion will pay for itself in a couple of years just by not having to mess with points again.

That voltage drop to 6 volts at the distributor is too much. Gottaski is right about the poor wiring in the Nautiques. your guage problems probably come from the wiring inadequacies and/or corroded/loose contacts.

Got to Holley.com. It does sound like you have a 4160, and Holley does not list the specs. The specs were left to correctcraft to determine. Look around on the site, they have a Holley repair manual there specifically for the Marine carb series. If your list is 81265, the specs are not listed, but I can give the info I used from C/C.

Skyhawk...For now I have ordered a renew kit for the distributor that includes new cap, rotor, points, and distributor. I do agree that the plate and such looks pretty corroded. I will probably get the electronic conversion towards the end of the season. Just need to get it up and running good for now to get the wifey off my back for getting rid of the '77 (which had no problems at all) and buying the '83 (have replaced starter, and now full tuneup coming). Still I am well under a grand for the upgrade to the "2001" with all the needed parts. Plus, it's bigger, throws a way phatter wake, and has better resale potential. It is still hard to get her to see it that way though.

Peace

I ended up ordering from skidim b/c I was getting a bunch of other stuff. I wish I would have known sooner. How much at summit?

How was the install for the renew kit? Did it make much of a difference?

Thanx

Run the wires around the front of the engine. This will save on the length witch will reduce resistance. I used the vertical wire loom from century performance. I posted a topic on the issue. This secured the wires to the first bolt on the valve cover closest to the distributer the remove the other mounts from the clips and just use them as seperators. Worked killer and really clean. Go for the electronic ignition. Really. I have the same issue with my 351. Low voltage. The voltage drop your getting is normal unless the engine is running. The balist resistors are measured under full power. If you do the MBI distributer, be aware that the voltage will be low and then spike high when the the module triggers. My system was all around 12vdc with my module unpluged. When I pluged it everything droped. Positive side to 3.75 and negitive side to .94. been on the phone to Mallory for hours. Sent off my modules and all is fine! Remember that the coil stores voltage, that's it's job. It gets triggered by the negitive side to release power to the cap. good luck with it all. I have the mallory ylm 554cv with the 609 module and a epoxy coil. 7mm wires and plat plugs gaped at 35. Once you have the ignition solved and it runs bad, you know it's the carb!

The renew kit was not too hard to install, just time consuming. It included power valve, gaskets, needles & seats,O-rings,etc. Most of the time was spent on cleaning, dipped in carb cleaner(which is some evil stuff, I read the cautions on the label!)The price was about $3 less at Summit than SkiDIM and $20 less than local. Finally got the carb reinstalled and running today. That old Ford still sounds sweet. I haven't had it on the water yet but it sure does start easier.

The plugs that I got are gapped .040". Should I regap them or do yall think they will work. They are Bosch platnums if it makes any difference.

My 289 backfires violently and even starts a fire above the carb when my timing is a little retarded. It does this right after it sounds like it is about to start. I discovered this the first time I had my distributor out. It sounds good and then BAMM! In my case turning the dist. to advance the timing a little, solved the problem. I was able to get it started so I could throw a timing light on it.

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Make sure all of your wires are pressed in tight on the cap and on the plugs. They can fool you and cause a miss.

Also, I do not know the specs on your engine but 6 deg. sounds a little low. I have been running my 289 at 18 Deg. initial advance but I am going to adjust it back to 14 Deg tomorrow. I think the specs on the 289 call for 10 Deg initial timing. Get some other opinions on this for your engine before you adjust it though.

I would run a tank of gas through it (if it is not a real bad miss) just to see if it clears up.

If it doesn't clear up and advancing the timing does not clear it up and all of the plugs wires are tight I would get rid of the points. Now is the time for the conversion. I'm sure others that have made the conversion will chime in and agree.

My experience is that I was living with a "slight" miss at the high end (3000 and up). I could adjust the points and it would clear up for a short while and then I had to adjust again. It was never ending. I went with a Petronix conversion because of the low price (about $75.00 I think but I don't remember where I bought it - somewhere online) and my boating pleasure increased dramtically. The miss has been gone forever and the engine starts noticably easier.

I bet you and the wife are relieved. Have fun and always remember the question my girlfriend asks everytime we go boating: "Did you put the plug in?"

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Check it out. This is an awesome article.

So it sounds like a timing issue? From a dead start, if I full throttle it, it seems to bog, and I have to accelerate at half throttle.

Thanx

I set my timing at 10 BTDC at idle and reved up to 3000 rpms and it advanced to 30 BTDC.