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Keeganino 
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 Posted: December-29-2010 at 3:58pm |
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Looks all too familiar. My 73 skier was just one rotten piece of rot after another. Just when you thought you might get away with not replacing this or that you are quickly reminded that EVERYTHING is rotten. I could squeeze water out of my transom lift ring assembly and it is 2" up in the air. That was the final piece that made me realize nothing was safe.
You are doing the right thing and will have a sweet new/old boat when you are done. |
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connorssons
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Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:08pm |
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Well got more done on the sep! revamped the mobile bunk so it was usable to do all repairs, and not having to put on stationary bunk. do to not wanting grinding dust in my shop
 the brackets slid in and out and are ajustable up and down. removed almost all rotten wood, just keel board left, you know who you are that talked me into this, bfn.  picked up all my wet sanding stuff today for deck and hull, starting at 600 then 1000 to 2000 then 4000. the last pic is of a test sand with 2000 just to check it out. hope you can see it in the pic Jeff   
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storm34
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Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:14pm |
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Looking good! I can see a bit of the difference in the last pic. Whats the reasoning for going to 4000?
The 3m Compounds will take out anything 2000+ |
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connorssons
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Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:21pm |
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Almost forgot this pic. check out where PO replaced speedo pick up, you can see where water was running in and out. no wonder why these boats rotted from the inside out, also check out spider cracks do to rotten transom. [FLEX]
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connorssons
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Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:25pm |
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Sorry! again
 Storm! 4000 was recomended for a better finish, over kill huh.
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storm34
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Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:40pm |
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Wow, thats amazing. I guess if you didn't know any better one would think leaving a hole like that was ok. Man were they wrong!!!!
Seems like it may be overkill but if you have time and energy, it's not going to hurt anything. Thats one interesting speedo. |
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connorssons
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 4:11am |
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Well got back with the donor boat for the upgraded outdrive
tore into it last night and today, got all parts needed for sep. thay are dirty but in very good shape, the rest of the boat ain,t worth a rusty penny. who needs a lawn ornament? 
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connorssons
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 4:25am |
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Decided on what motor will go into this project. sbc 383 stroker 420 hp from summit a blueprint brand motor, has any body used this brand or can suggest a better alternitive with the same ponys and torque.
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Swatkinz
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 10:51am |
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Hey guys, is the exhaust thru hull original to this boat? If so, I wonder why it was placed so high on the transom? It seems that being so high would be annoying from a sound perspective. Jeff, with your new power, will you be staying with the single exhaust outlet? Will you be keeping it that high on the transom? Just curious. Nice project and nice work
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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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BuffaloBFN
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 10:57am |
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OK then...just which BFN is being dissed here?
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 11:21am |
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Steve, The I/O's I've seen had the normal through the prop exhaust like Jeff's. However, when the Seperator/Torino/Spoiler hulls were set up with V drives, two different exhausts though the transoms were used. The early hulls were set up exiting high since the exhaust manifolds exits were towards the aft and went directly out from there. Then later (maybe to quite them down) the manifolds were reversed so the exits pointed forward. Then, they made a "U" bend down into the bilge and aft exiting the transom at a level common to the DD's. Real late in the V/D's life, I even think CC installed mufflers down under the engine. That "flapper" on Jeffs transom is for the bilge ventilator. |
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Riley
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 11:39am |
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I know someone that has a pair of Interceptor "U" outlets if you need them.
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Swatkinz
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Posted: January-11-2011 at 11:42am |
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Ahhhh, my newbieness shining thru. Thanks for the clarification, Pete. |
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Steve
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connorssons
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Posted: January-12-2011 at 8:40pm |
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Pete! you are exactly rite, as always.
Steve I will be running thru hull exhaust up high,I like the rumble. with the new power i will be replacing the old 302 mercruiser with some chevy power 383 stroker  i trimmed the transom today to fit the newer bigger outdrive, wasnt alot but this will definetly help. will keep ya posted.
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connorssons
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Posted: January-15-2011 at 10:37pm |
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Riley
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Posted: January-15-2011 at 10:52pm |
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This is the best pic I got. It's from the ebay listing when we got them. I want the manifolds, but don't need the elbows. 
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connorssons
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Posted: January-15-2011 at 10:52pm |
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Worked on the sep today, removed the keel board [thanks tim] it wasnt rotten but it was soaked
 all wiring removed and also got the old mercruiser throttle out. we also removed the window all the bolts had to be cut do to severe rust, what a pain so little room. just about have the hull stripped for wet sanding. waiting for a decent day to get the hull outside to finish grinding inside so we can get to glassing. here is some pics from today. btw what did cc use to seal window to hull.    boat kinda looks like a donzi wiyhout window
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connorssons
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Posted: January-15-2011 at 11:04pm |
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Hay Riley ! I cant see them thay are to small, are thay alum or cast? i might have a issue with exh cause of the way the steering hooks up do to being a out drive
you can give me a ring to explain them if ya like. Thanks Jeff 269 506 1249
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 10:45am |
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if your going to skin the wood off the transom, buy yourself a portable hand planer, works well, I have a ton of Chevy Merc takeouts with all the ornaments hanging if you need any parts. google silent choice, alot of Mercs use them,
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 10:53am |
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you gotta watch, if you purchase a pre 86 chubby, it is a 2 piece rear main with different crank which warrants a different alpha drive coupling, after 86 is a 1 piece rear main, and to a different coupling....a little pricey and worth purchasing a new one because they tend to fail often.
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 10:56am |
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also, if you put a new gimble bearing in and U-joints, which i hope you would while its off, buy them from Napa and not Merc....Merc gimble bearings and u-joints deleted the zerc fittings and a grease hole on the bearing so you cant service them....bastards
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 11:03am |
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if you do happen to go with thru hull, they do make a set of baffles, believe me the noise will be annoying as fck after a while, the baffles tame down the noise a bit and the complaints, open exhaust on an I/o is a touch louder than the norm of an inboard
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connorssons
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 2:42pm |
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Good morning eric! yes the chubby is a 1 piece rear main, the newer OD is a 87model do ya think there will be a problem. was thinking of going with either aluminum mercruiser replacements 650 complete or the MP2K from michigan motors 1300 bones. the manifold are a long way off but need to be considered during this build
 do to steering clearance. so the planer will take the thin layer of wood off transom, good idea that was my next project considering baffles but dont know if i have enough room. here is a pick of todays project, removed bow lift ring supports that was the last piece of rotten wood thats coming out and was one of the toughest. if any body thinks thay can leave any wood in during a resto look at this!
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connorssons
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Posted: January-16-2011 at 2:43pm |
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Riley
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Posted: January-17-2011 at 11:19am |
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Jeff, I'll call you later thins morning. I posted a better picture. The elbows did come off an Interceptor V Drive engine.
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-18-2011 at 9:56am |
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the baffles are about the size of a coffee can cut in half and mount directly to the transom and they have their own outlet tips that go out the back of the boat, cuts the open header noise in half, really is annoying with straight pipes on I/O's. when it comes to manifolds on these boats i can always think of better ways to spend the money, if its open checkbook, go with your gut. But, I think a pair of Mercs would be the way to go. if your going with a stroked engine there is plenty of useable horsepower
1986 is when they switched to a one piece RM, so the 87 coupling will fit on the crank. when you get to the point of aligning the engine to the drive i will send you my extra tool, but i need it back. The planer is definitely the way to go to skin the transom, it gets right down to the glass, I have a twin engine boat i have to put a transom in next month and i am not looking forward to it, I threw him a high price to dis courage him and he said OK, when should i bring it? fckkkkkk!!! not so bad though I guess, I need something to fill my days |
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connorssons
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Posted: January-18-2011 at 1:47pm |
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Thank for the info Eric! will pick up planer today
 apprecate use of tool down the road! guess ill go with mercs. thanks jeff
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eric lavine
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Posted: January-18-2011 at 2:25pm |
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now you know what i do in between transmissions lol, put my share of transoms in and alot of repairs on the Alpha/ gimble rings, crack the drive in half and put a new impeller in there, new rubber and shift cable...dont ask why just do it... lol really, invest in a new shift cable to the drive or the boat will stall everytime you put it into reverse because of the interupter switch.
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WOFTAM
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Posted: January-18-2011 at 8:15pm |
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Hey Connorsons
I have to give a plug for an oscillating tool for that transom. I cannot tell you how much I love my Rein multimaster. I have recited so many boats with it I cannot even count. Of course the market is flooded with them now. I heard their patent expired ...I have seen dremel Milwaukee Bosch Rockwell and even Harbor Freight with oscillating tool models. Don't skimp on the blades though. I tried a HF. Blade for kicks and it lasted about 30 min before the teeth were rounded. By comparison some of my Rein blades are years old. I have bought Bosch blades in a pinch and they seem to hold up pretty well. |
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WOFTAM
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Posted: January-18-2011 at 8:18pm |
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Last post should read Fein Multimaster. Dang autotext..
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