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critter wrote: john b wrote: The answer? Because there is something wrong with the emission system! A code reader or disconnecting the battery turns off the MIL, but it does not clear the code. The code is still in the PCM. This I understand. I just wanted the light to go out when I correct the loose gas cap. Why is that so hard to understand ?? I had the code, I correct the loose gas cap, I wanted the light out... I ended up using a family members Code Reader and cleared it. Please do not report me to the EPA for clearing a Code that was only an informational code anyway.

I have never seen a code for a loose gas cap.   The code reader I use does not say, P1823 Loose gas cap.

Those kind of code are usually tied to evap. emmissions, something the autozone guy doesnt even understand, or know what to sell you to fix the problem.   He shouldn't even be allowed to use a code reader for profit honestly.

I bet your code comes back soon, even if you tighten your cap properly.

Don't worry, although the code is still readable in the PCM, it also shows when the error last occurred. You will pass emissions if the problem was corrected and the MIL was reset.
A log of the engine history is kept as a reference in the PCM as to what has occurred and been addressed. No government agency expects that a malfunction will never occurr, only that it is addressed and repaired. We can all breathe easier and perform better if it is.
I tried to research available information as to the sponsors of the bill enabling the EPA to enforce standards on vehicle emissions. It appears to be an evolving system of standards proposed by both parties beginning in 1955, with the last major regulations being enacted in 1990 based partially on CARB (California Air Resources Board) regulations, that date back to the Regan era (a Californian). I really don't think this is a political agenda, only one that benefits clean air, proposed and adopted over the years by both parties. Sometimes good things come from cooperation and compromise.

critter wrote: I repeat, the EPA lets me purchase the Code Reader and clear it myself... but not let me use the Autoparts store Reader to clear it. Do you understand that I still can clear it with about $100 ? So how does that stop anyone from "spewing toxic garbage into the air" ? And if you cannot afford a $100 Reader, you cannot afford to take a car into a dealer. Here they charge $85 to read the codes. .

The Sad and real truth probably goes something like this. Some guy who owns a dealership got tweaked because his customers were going to Auto zone and getting for free what he was charging 85 dollars for. This guy has an in with a gullible tree huger at the EPA and sells them a sob story about how Auto zone is destroying our planet by loaning out code readers. EPA guy adds it to the standards he is writing, and you and I get screwed.

The media and GOP Establishment have already nominated Romney. The last 3 years proves what happens when you let the media pick a president and the 8 years before that proved what the GOP Establishment will do for us.

I can only hope that the majority of the people have woke up.

Cain/Gingrich in 2012.

Hollywood wrote: quite a stretch ^^^ used to be free, now it's not = screwed?

What really was accomplished by the EPA? I can still go to a dealership and have a 02 sensor diagnosed, and say not thanks, no repair today and drive off, I can by my own reader and reset any code I feel like, either option cost me about a hundo and is bad for the environment. The only thing I cannot do is go to a "greedy" business and use the reader that they used to offer me for FREE to see if my car really needs repair or if I can just reset a gas cap code. Why should I NOT feel screwed?

The story is not that big of a stretch, why do you think we have "loopholes" in tax laws, or why did Harry Ried get his home state and the unions excluded from Obama care.

From the Daily Standard May 18th 2011

President Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), headed by Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, has now granted Obamacare waivers to the entire states of Nevada and New Hampshire. In its letter to Nevada, HHS admits that, without the waiver, “there is a reasonable likelihood” that Obamacare would result in “market destabilization, and thus harm to consumers.” Thus, to try to keep insurers from fleeing that state, HHS has exempted Nevada from a portion of Obamacare’s long list of mandates and requirements. HHS also admits to a “reasonable likelihood” that Obamacare would “destabilize the individual market” in New Hampshire, and has granted it a statewide waiver as well.

I know what is in the act, I am currently training in Health IT. What is in the act is not the point, the point is the guy pushing for the passage exempted (partially) his own state. This says to me he knows it is bad legislation, which supports the theory of corruption in government.

Nevada’s Insurance Division had appealed to the feds to reduce the federal requirement that health plans serving people who buy insurance on their own must spend at least 80 percent of the money they collect on medical expenses. Under the national rule, companies that don’t spend that percentage of revenue on medical costs have to cut policyholders rebate checks starting this year.


Nevada asked that requirement be reduced to 72 percent for one year, arguing that top insurance providers would be so strapped to make the payments that they’d exit the state market.


Health and Human Services didn’t fully buy that argument, but did agree to reduce the requirement to 75 percent for a year, expressing concern about what might happen to people with policies from insurers Golden Rule and Aetna if they didn’t.


Together, Golden Rule and Aetna cover 24 percent of Nevada’s insured; but they, along with Sierra Health and MEGA, which cover another 4 percent, are spending nowhere near 80 percent of revenue on health care coverage.

Thank you that was the point I was making to Hollywood.

fact time: 50% of US workers earn under 26k a year, keep coddling the rich fella's
oh yeah, TR, thats 2 million into a population of 3 billion

eric lavine wrote: fact time: 50% of US workers earn under 26k a year, keep coddling the rich fella's oh yeah, TR, thats 2 million into a population of 3 billion

Fact time, the Average government employees total compensation package is $126,000 a year. At least the businesses earned the money. The government takes it from us. Who are we coddling?

eric lavine wrote: oh yeah, TR, thats 2 million into a population of 3 billion

So?

eric lavine wrote: it was in defense of sounding like we export a ton of cars into China

Im not sure what the population of China has anything do with it. 2 million car sales per year is a pretty good rate. Heck, Buick only sold 100k cars in the US in 2009. Kia's US sales last year (2010) were only 350k.