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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Tim
The wet sanding with the oil is an old woodworkers trick used when putting on a "Danish oil" finish. On open grain woods such as Walnut (commonly finished with an oil) the technique really smooths it out by leaving some of the sanding dust in the pores. Now, it's not like going all the way with a paste grain wood filler for the "bar top" finish but does fill the grain some. You use it when getting down into the 800 grit and finer paper. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21207 |
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Interesting! Does the oil ball up as you sand? I noticed that would happen if I tried wetsanding before the oil was completely dry.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Tim,
No, it doesn't ball up since you are doing the sanding before the oil dries. If a previous coat balls up, just as you said, it wasn't completely dry. But, I feel you would have less of a problem with the oil than water. Give it a try next time. |
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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ok, now I'm getting confused, let me see if I get this:
Tim, what you did was 1. Clean 2. Dry (completely) 3. Wet sand (with water) 4. Dry 5. Oil 6. Repeat steps 2-5 And Pete, what you're suggesting is: 1. Clean 2. Dry (completely) 3. Oil 4. Wet sand (with oil) 5. repeat steps 3-4 Is that right? If you're wet sanding using the oil do you still rinse it? Or do you just oil, sand while wet, oil, sand while wet, with no waiting for it to dry? |
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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(by the way, I tend to ask a lot of very detailed questions when I have no idea what I'm doing, so all the advice is greatly appreciated)
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21207 |
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Youve got my procedure correct. Gotta be 100% dry prior to wetsanding and again prior to oiling.
As Pete describes it, Id say you have his method correct as well. |
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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It seems like there would be a tremendous time savings using Pete's wet oil method...I could basically increase the grit on the sandpaper with each oiling but have it done in one afternoon, then only have to wait for a week while it dries once. From that perspective it seems like a slam dunk.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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You have my procedure correct as well but no "rinsing". Just keep the wet sanding area wet with oil. When done sanding, you can wipe it down with some more Teak oil just to remove any left over sanding dust.
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Foot_Fungus ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-27-2012 Location: Chapin, SC Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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adding/emphasizing pete's earlier statement I wouldn't wetsand with the oil below 600ish grit. Reason being, or what I experiences anyways was that the amount of wood material you are removing isn't fine enough to settle into the pores and ended up 'clogging' up the sand paper. I oiled, dried, dry sanded till i got to 600+, then I wet sanded after that point as I felt the material was powdery enough to fill in. Again just my observation and I'm by no means an expert.
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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well then, in the interest of scientific discovery (sort of), and time savings, I think I'll try the wet method. Of course, pictures to follow.
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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one other thing, probably a dumb question again, but will I have to do this twice? once on the top and once on the bottom? or can I do both in one fell swoop and just get creative with the way I lay it out to dry?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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When you get the brackets off, run four long screws into the bottom. Then you do the bottom first and flip it so it's resting on the four screws. |
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IAughtNaut ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-22-2010 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 2568 |
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see, that's why I ask...I am way too dumb to have thought about that on my own. I would have done it in two steps and taken two extra weeks while it dried.
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fanto3k4 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: October-03-2010 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 51 |
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QUOTE]When you get the brackets off, run four long screws into the bottom. Then you do the bottom first and flip it so it's resting on the four screws.[/QUOTE]
Brillant! I have been doing the prep work on mine this week. Hope to start oiling this weekend! |
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1118 |
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![]() This thread inspired me to refinish my old and tired looking platform. I used the products shown and the procedures described above (sort of). Power washed then used the cleaner multiple times then dry sanded with 150. Applied oil then let dry and wet sanded with 320 and oil for first coat and did a combination of wet sand with water or oil for the remaining coats. It's very hot and dry in Tucson already so drying time was about 24 hours or less. Thanks for the info. It's the best it has ever looked in the 18 years I've owned it. |
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DrStevens ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-15-2011 Location: Columbus, OH Status: Offline Points: 422 |
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Looks great, almost like a piece of furniture.
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DrStevens ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-15-2011 Location: Columbus, OH Status: Offline Points: 422 |
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What type of caulk/sealer is recommended to place in the screw holes when reattaching a platform after refinishing?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Brackets to the hull - 5200 or 4200.
Brackets to the wood - nothing. |
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DrStevens ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-15-2011 Location: Columbus, OH Status: Offline Points: 422 |
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Thanks Pete
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newguy1986 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April-08-2011 Location: Houston Status: Offline Points: 226 |
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soo.... I am now guessing I have wasted my time this past weekend...
I cleaned my platform with starbrite cleaner scrubbing with brush. then power washed which seemed to work wonders.. then I went to DRY sanding the wood at 80 grit, 120 grit, and 220. I washed the wood to remove all dust. after it was dry i used the brightener. I let is dry and now i have been applying and coat of teak oil every time I see is not "wet" any more. It looks awesome but are yall saying it will not last?? IMG_0925.jpg ![]() |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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I have trouble believing that it was a waste of time. It sounds like you are doing the most important parts, cleaning it good, then applying layers of teak oil and letting them sun dry in. Some of the details are a matter of personal preference. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Andrew, You haven't wasted your time at all. How long it will last depends on how long it's out in the sun and water. Understand that oiled Teak does need a fair amount of maintenance. When it seems to be drying out, give it another coat of oil. You should at least get several years out of it before having to do the full job on it. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21207 |
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Certainly not a waste of time, but I do think that sanding to finer grits has the added bonus of extending the life of the finish. So its not all a matter of personal preference.
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newguy1986 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April-08-2011 Location: Houston Status: Offline Points: 226 |
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mine is soaking up oil... alot of oil.... I guess I will just keep applying until it stops taking it in?
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21207 |
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I would let it dry fully between coats. Wet sanding between coats is optional, but should also be allowed to dry fully prior to the next coat.
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notx2001 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: February-06-2012 Location: Houston, TX Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thought id share some pics of my platform transform. The PO had stained it black and coated in poly. YECH.. what fun to get rid of too. I started thinking id just strip it mechanically. But i was going no where fast.
![]() To make it easier to rid the platform finish and stain I ended up getting some CitrusStrip to remove the old finish. I let the stripper sit on the platform over night and it did a good job of removing the finish, scraped with a plastic scraper and brass brush for the crevices. It was still dark after removing the finish. After this i started using the wood cleaner. Several times. ![]() The platform was pretty rough and I wanted a real smooth surface, so I sanded the entire top with 120 and 220. ![]() ![]() I used the cleaner one more time after sanding figuring it may open up the wood a bit during sanding. Then used oil and wetsand with oil technique I learned from you guys here. And its looking great. Its amazing just how nice the wood feels now. It is incredibly smooth. ![]() ![]() I am happy with how it turned out. Worlds apart from the dark platform prior. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Aaron,
WOW!!! Yup, that's one real big difference. It sure looks great. |
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DrStevens ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-15-2011 Location: Columbus, OH Status: Offline Points: 422 |
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Great job, your hard work really paid off!
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Sampson 182 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November-18-2015 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 82 |
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Heres a few of my platform pics. Done this weekend! So excited to see the response from the members. all this was done using the knowledge from the site. THANKS everyone.
1987 SN 2001 original ski platform. PO put on polyurethane! Before. (polyurethane, and years of abuse.) ![]() After ( Aircraft stripper, pressure washing , sanding, and first oiling.) ![]() All my knowledge was gained from the correctcraftfan.com forums. THANKS to all the members. |
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