Election 2012 Is Comming

it was an after thought and probably worded wrong, not a shelter, just plain old its not taxed and i have a feeling the ones who benefit the most from it are the ones that molded the tax law....I see it as income, but on the other side of the coin what if you take a hit on the stock? is that shown as a loss on your 1040?

I will never give investment advice to anyone, not because I don't want to share, but because I don't know anything more than others looking for a good investment. I am not licensed as a financial planner or broker, and I view much of the limited success I have had as just plain luck.
I am very conservative financially. I drive a 7 year old Saturn Ion with 140,000 miles on the clock, live in a modest blue collar neighborhood, and buy the majority of my clothes at Farm & Fleet. My Saturday Mustang purchase was extravagant and I will be selling two antique boats to recoup the price. I have one of my antique motorcycles up on eBay right now. I want to sell most of the material crap I have accumulated over the years. I believe the best signature on the site is "The things you own will come to own you" I have realized that I get very little joy from any but a very few of my material possessions. They are just excess baggage. I am NOT one of the rich ones. I also believe that we all owe a debt of gratitude to the country that afforded us the opportunities we have. Some of the comments I have seen on this thread seem to indicate that the authors are not grateful for these opportunities and want to transform this country to something it is not and never has been. Unless there is compassion for others there is no real joy or satisfaction in ones life. My generation changed the country through the protests by the Freedom Riders, the civil rights movement, and the Vietnam war protests. The attitudes and opinions condemning the actions of those who want to change the world they will inherit remind me of those of my parents generation who condemned the Vietnam war protesters. I did not experience those attitudes at home from my parents however. My father, a WWII B24 bomber pilot met my mother, an Army Air Force nurse when he was recovering from injuries from an aircraft crash. They, having proudly served in the war, were also opposed to our involvement in Vietnam. I see the occupy movement as the next wave of change. Those who fail or refuse to recognize trends and public opinions are positioned to be left behind.
That is all.

David,
My statement about not recommending stocks was in jest as well, along with my quip insinuating that I would necessarily trust a licensed planner/ broker.
I believe we probably have much more in common than we have differences. I know you are passionate about your views, and that, I believe, is important. If I didn't want to hear others opinions I wouldn't visit this thread. I also agree that trying to survive on public assistance is miserable for everyone. I certainly don't have all of the answers. I believe that we must have tolerance for others in order to solve problems that we all share. I consider myself an independent, I have never voted a straight ticket. I am sick of this gridlock.
The fact that you value independence, education, family, and have a good work ethic speaks highly of you. Since you have a CC, that puts you over the top.
I would enjoy meeting you and seeing you boat sometime.

Well, just about the time I posted that Barney Frank should be one of the first tossed into jail due to his role in the mortgage meltdown, he announced today that he won't be seeking re-election next year. Good riddance! Let's weed some more of them out.

azeus17 wrote: Please let me know if I am wrong as I am looking for a way to minimize my liabilities.

How about moving out of Michigan for starters, Maybe Florida or the one of the Dakotas?

eric lavine wrote: im tearing up here guys, the only thing I want to clear up is that i do often make remarks about our military actions and my disclaimer is always towards the government and not geared towards the individual who is put into harms way, they have a job to do and do it very well, i would never protest a soldier or a marine, if i was in the same circumstance I too would do the same...I get alot of information streamed from the guys who have been there.

Nothing to say Eric. Freedom aint free!! And get rid of the freeking liberals in goverment. Tired of big goverment in the free market fking up everything!! No goverment in the free market!!

I hear they have a new Cain stamp, when you lick it, it giggles

I just made that one up, thats a keeper

keep in mind Ski, if you opt to purchase an American made Christmas gift for someone at a cost of 64.00, you will create 200,000 jobs here in the red white and blue

Cain has a new campaign manager...... Tiger Woods

Some times when the family buiseness is run by the second or even third generation things go down hill. They were handed a business they were not ready to handle. They're young, good looking, and talk a good story. They have big ideas and usually spend big too. Before things get real bad grampa, or dad comes out of retirement, digs in and gets things straightened out. We have had three terms of the kids at the helm and look what has happened, Big ideas and big spending. It is time to put an expierenced grown up back in the office to straighten things out.

Eric, give me a ring when you have a minute. Unrelated.
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If what they are saying about Cain is not true, it is horrible what they are doing to him. If it is true, he is stupid for running.

Who's going to step up and replace Barney Frank in Mass?

well seeing that brain dont think, i would tend to believe its true....look how long State Penn was covered up, you know that went all the way to the dean......if you wanna get laid go buy a damn hooker, then you could qustion credibility, its implanted in my brain already and when you mention his name, the first thing that pops into my head is what the allegations are. he's done at this point he is a vote stealer

wingwrench wrote: If Cain wasn't a threat none of this nonsense would be out there. Only a conservative can be convicted on hearsay. Obama knows he can't beat him. A true test of how true this stuff is, look at the bank accounts of the accusers. You won't hear that on your lame stream media. My money and vote is still with Cain.

I would have to agree. Liberal media destroyed Cain, but I still like the guy. He has some great business ideas that Obama cant even think off. He justs wants to spend money, keep taxing the rich, and he couldnt create a job if he tried.


I am good friends here with alot of my neighbors. The score in my neighborhood is 100-0 Republicans.. Newt will prevail