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Yes, the 12" is the min. for a standard tracked OH door.


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So, we went to look at the progress and as we were looking around, we noticed this...no drain flange/pipe for the toilet in the hall bath. We panicked and wondered how it could be fixed. Then, we looked back at the earlier pics and realized the drain is there, it just must be lower than the finished concrete level, so they will just have to chip that away to get to it. Phew!



Things are progressing well...all the walls are up and set...nw it's time for ceiling joists and roof framing.


























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I'm thinking your plans may have changed at some point and I missed it, but from what I remember from about this time last year this thread should be right up your alley.

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?141213-Going-off-the-grid-our-family-story

It's pretty long and grows by 5 or 6 pages a day, but there's lots of pics and it's worth the read if you have some time over the holidays. The guy behind it had most of it on another forum where it happened in real time over the years and he's bringing the condensed version of the highlights to RDP.
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For anyone who wanders over there, RDP is pretty wide open, anything short of REMOVE is OK and most language is permissible, Hollywood and Quinner should feel right at home. You may want to explore on something other than your work computer. The members are mostly boaters from the West Coast and like anything that goes fast. I have a few hydrofoil friends and dragboat friends who hang out over there which is how I found it.
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Cool, I'll check it out.
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There is a major difference between wall framing in the US compared to Aus. We would have "noggins" between every stud.
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Mark,
We still use them when vertical tongue and groove paneling is applied over the gypsum board. Years ago they were also used as fire blocking when the studs ran all the way from the sill plate (first wood on the foundation wall) through all the floors to the cap plate (top wood member at the roof).. This method of framing (balloon) hasn't been used since long lumber lengths are harder to find and the cost is higher. We now use what's called platform framing. Yes, before the wall coving is applied to the walls, you hit your noggin on them!!


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Coming along nicely! Must be exciting for you and your family to follow the progress! Thanks for sharing with us.
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I noticed the lack of "fire blocks" as well. I think our last house we built still had them, but, it seems like they are becoming less common.

Quote Coming along nicely! Must be exciting for you and your family to follow the progress! Thanks for sharing with us.


Thanks...glad you're enjoying watching the progress, too.
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Originally posted by TX Foilhead TX Foilhead wrote:

I'm thinking your plans may have changed at some point and I missed it, but from what I remember from about this time last year this thread should be right up your alley.

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?141213-Going-off-the-grid-our-family-story

It's pretty long and grows by 5 or 6 pages a day, but there's lots of pics and it's worth the read if you have some time over the holidays. The guy behind it had most of it on another forum where it happened in real time over the years and he's bringing the condensed version of the highlights to RDP.


The link doesn't seem to work.
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Try this one!!

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?141213-Going-off-the-grid-our-family-story/page1

Read a bit of it this am, interesting stuff, ambitious project
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Quinner, I really figured you would have found Attractive girls maybe NSFW or the Cameltoe Tuesday threads.

I've never seen anyone do this much stuff on this scale.   Usually those who have the means to start this size project from nothing hire someone to everything done, and those who want to have that kind of lifestyle spend much longer working at it on a much smaller scale.   
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Sorry about the bad link, the thread is at River Dave's Place in the lounge section and it called Going off the Grid our Family Story. It's stayed on the front page most of the week.
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Continued progress...getting the framing almost done and roofing is coming next.





































































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Andy,
I'm surprised they stick built the roof and didn't used trusses. Was there a reason?


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Trusses are very rare around here. I don't know the exact reasoning.
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Do you get decent amounts of snow fall in your area? Like over 2" in a storm?
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Andy,
I'm surprised they stick built the roof and didn't used trusses. Was there a reason?


Having been involved in numerous Habitat for Humanity houses and getting 'stuck' doing the trusses each time. that was the first thing that I noticed as well......

Digging the 3 bay garage!...Lookin good Mon'!
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No, we really don't get a whole lot of snow. Usually we get one or two storms a year and not much accumulation.
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Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:



Digging the 3 bay garage!...Lookin good Mon'!


Thanks. It seems huge when you're standing in it, but I think we'll be glad we oversized it and made it more like a shop.
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Andy,
Snow loading wasn't the reason I asked about the roof trussing. It's from an economical point. The labor and lumber involved with a stick built roof far exceeds having roof trusses factory made. Too bad it's not a common method down there.


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The storage space you get with a stick framed roof is well worth the added cost at times. Attic trusses are available but they are very heavy and cost savings are diminished. As a carpenter, I always enjoyed framing the roof.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Andy,
Snow loading wasn't the reason I asked about the roof trussing. It's from an economical point. The labor and lumber involved with a stick built roof far exceeds having roof trusses factory made. Too bad it's not a common method down there.

Pete I asked him about snow fall. Initially looking at the pictures they look to be 2x6's on the main "larger" roof. Without knowing the "run" on that room, but 2x6's seem to be cutting it close on the span tables. Hopefully they can post the ridge I several spots. But I bet theres some bounce in the mid of those rafters when standing up there.
Exciting stuff right there though for you and your family
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Garage space looks sweet.

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Originally posted by SWANY SWANY wrote:


Pete I asked him about snow fall. Initially looking at the pictures they look to be 2x6's on the main "larger" roof. Without knowing the "run" on that room, but 2x6's seem to be cutting it close on the span tables. Hopefully they can post the ridge I several spots. But I bet theres some bounce in the mid of those rafters when standing up there.
Exciting stuff right there though for you and your family

I agree. It looks like the max run with a 2x6 and a 20psi load is 12' on 16" with SPF and only a 9' span on 16" with a 40psi load. It sure wouldn't work in a snow load area!

The other nice feature of roof trusses is they don't rely on the wall cap plates to maintain the vertical to horizontal loading. No collar ties ether however all they do is bend the rafters down with a load.


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Yes Collar ties! Forgot to say that also. Every other at least, but if it was mine and that scenario I would do every single one
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Kinda strange that they are using a gen-set instead of a temporary power pole. In this area a temporary meter is the first thing they set.   It is part of your permits Just seemed strange.
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Trusses are a more expensive option here versus the stick build roof. Those roof joists are 2x8's.

We had a bit of an issue getting the temporary power connected and didn't want to delay our progress, so we rented a generator. The temp pole was approved, permitted and set...we're just waiting on the electric coop to schedule the job for connection. It required me getting involved instead of just my contractor, like in the city. Also, our recent ice storms have kept all the electric companies busy.
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Yes Collar ties! Forgot to say that also. Every other at least, but if it was mine and that scenario I would do every single one


I'm pretty sure he said collar ties are going in. These framers seem top notch based on what I've seen. The tie everything together very solidly and seem to do things right.
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Originally posted by Okie Boarder Okie Boarder wrote:

Originally posted by SWANY SWANY wrote:

Yes Collar ties! Forgot to say that also. Every other at least, but if it was mine and that scenario I would do every single one


I'm pretty sure he said collar ties are going in. These framers seem top notch based on what I've seen. The tie everything together very solidly and seem to do things right.


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