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john b
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I hope you have some fur lined wrenches to work on that engine.
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uk1979
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Alan I would be surprised if the rubber gears are not all the same size...that picture above is with the engine upside down.
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Lets have a go
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skutsch
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Alan, keep the faith man, almost there, a minor bump in the road!
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I'm not sure anyone can look at a Chrysler marine cooling system and fully understand it. There are even provisions in the system for a minimum amount of exhaust back pressure. Rebuild the pump and go boating!
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81nautique
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There you go, it pumped two years ago when I fired it but no telling how old these gears are. At least we know what we've got to deal with now.
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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81nautique
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Water flow diagram for this mornings discussion
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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Gary S
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Have you found new impellers Alan or are they a hard find? Look to be the same type as Rogers.
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81nautique
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I've got a definite source Gary, think we'll be in good shape. |
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89Martinique
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Wow, very interesting cooling loop. Why the exhaust manifolds first? Or is there no real explanation.
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The exhaust manifolds preheat the water helping it reach operating temp much faster. This helps engine wear as the engine components warm up and expand to their correct tolerances faster. |
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89Martinique
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ok. that makes sense.
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PLBC
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Alan,
I like Joe am too lazy to look back, when you first fired the engine was it on a hose or pulling from a bucket? BTW, looks awesome wet, cannot wait to see it. You must be quite proud, and you should. |
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81nautique
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On a hose, should have checked it then but it wouldn't be any fun if I only had to do this stuff once. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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weitekampt
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Just be glad I left the same hat in the truck!!!! We would have looked real cute then!!
It was a treat to be there and watch it run in the water. It is absolutely sexy and is a head turner for everyone. They had everything from fishermen, guests in the campground and even a surprise visit from "Joe Dirt" drooling over this boat. Once this small issue gets fixed I think it will be ready for the lovely couple to take a much deserved ride together!! |
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uk1979
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Alan....looks much the same as mine, may be good to flush out the engine with the pump off as it looks like something gone through the pump......my guess is its lumps of rust from inside the engine as you bring her back to life, that drop down each time you shut off the engine. May take a few heat cycles to clear her out I would order a spare set or two. |
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Lets have a go
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turningpoint84
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How exactly does this gear setup work?
The engine spins these gears(impellers) and the water is pushed by there gears? Seems strange, never heard of using gears to push water. I figure you'd want a more plunger type like most of our boats. |
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C-Bass
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Gear style pumps are very common. Not sure how common in marine systems, but in general.
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turningpoint84
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Makes sense, i guess i should have said it doesn't seem like it would be very efficient, but I'm wrong on a lot of things. |
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81nautique
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don't forget this is 1955 technology, probably state of the art at one time. Seems like everything current uses flexible impellers for this applications. I looked into retrofitting with a more modern pump, it could certainly be done but since the old pump is serviceable we'll repair it. |
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turningpoint84
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Yeah i wouldn't change it, i assume the water comes in at the top of those 2 gears and then is propelled through out the bottom?
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8122pbrainard
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Peter, Sorry but once again you have inserted you foot into your rectum since you did no research nor have any knowledge on pump types before posting. Yes, gear pumps are very common especially on older marine engines. Here's the one I did on my 1927 Flexifour. You could also have done a site search and found Older threads like "no super sucker needed" I thought you were an engineer??????? |
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05 210
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That looks like an oil pump from a Harley Evo motor Pete. Only bigger Mike |
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Gary S
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or an air cooled VW oil pump
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quinner
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When geared up, almost anything can pump
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lewy2001
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Looks to be a extremely well engineered cooling system. Gear driven pump that would be almost maintenance free. I would bet after you install the new rubber gears that it will not only pump efficiently but last for a lot longer than the new style impellers on current pumps.
Just went through back through this complete thread. What a journey Alan, I consider myself quite handy but no where near your talent. Would love to make it to GL next week to see it in person as I remember what it looked like back at the 09 reunion. |
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turningpoint84
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D in fluid mechanics. :) But honestly I just had to refresh my memory, sorry for getting your blood boiling again old man. |
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Alan,
I noticed a truck w/a dark green trailer next to your truck on the morning of 7/5. I got a little excited thinking that maybe you had brought out the Hurricane that morning as well, but then I noticed the trailer was different that the pictures you posted. Can't wait to see it running on the water. Too bad we are going to miss the trip to GL this year. Scott |
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81nautique
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Ha, Me too! Hope you guys had a great week in TN. |
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lewy2001
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Alan, The more I look at that return hose from thermostat housing the more I see a source of air for the RAW pump to suck from instead of water. It would always be empty as the water would syphon back down after shutting engine off.
Without knowing what it looks like inside the thermostat housing. Externally it appears to have a good source of air from both exhaust dump points as well. So there maybe a endless source of air from the exhaust if they are open to that return hose. I doubt the thermostat would seal off the dump to exhausts totally anyway allowing a small bleed past. Any pictures of it disassembled. I thought about it all the way home on the plane. I still like the idea of that tap inline that would close it off and see if that gets the water pumping properly. |
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