You didn build that !

Olympic Update, the US is once again the greatest country in the world with the most gold medals and highest medal total. Obama is reported to be planning a world apology tour and wants Phelps to give up some of his many medals in the name of athletic justice saying "you didn't win that"

OverMyHead wrote: Ryan is racking up the big endorsements already.

Romney Ryan raised 3.5 million since Ryan was announced. That screams of BO be gone!

One last comparison...Romney was accused of murder because a woman got cancer(debunked)...let's talk, by the same token, about Bryan terry and the many others who were killed as of F&F. That's the pot calling the kettle very black.

Obama's fundraiser in Chicago was $51/plate as opposed to 35k and the room was half full. Already Romney Ryan have drawn over 10 thousand to 2 separate events...lookin bad for you bedwetters.

BuffaloBFN wrote: john b wrote: I have to laugh. I have had several conversations with a hard core far right Chicagoland neighbor of mine over the last few years. He always said we must cut spending, cut taxes, cut government programs, and quit giving handouts to the freeloaders ect. All the usual stuff. Two Toyotas and a Lexus in the driveway, IPhone and all the stuff, along with three kids, two in high school and one in college. Then he lost his job as a biotech engineer when his company moved its research to India about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. His wife became ill and lost her job. First his family lost their health care, then he couldn't pay the tuition for his daughter to stay in college, then his unemployment ran out. The daughter got a job at 7-11 and the high school kids cut lawns and shoveled snow last winter and did whatever they could to make a little money. When I came home from the cottage last week their house was empty. A neighbor told me that they were evicted and all of their belongings were put on the curb. They were going to try to live in their cars until they could find somewhere to live. It serves them right, they got what they asked for the lazy freeloaders! Next time they may be more careful of what they wish for. What a guy you are...

BuffaloBFN wrote: john b wrote: I have to laugh. I have had several conversations with a hard core far right Chicagoland neighbor of mine over the last few years. He always said we must cut spending, cut taxes, cut government programs, and quit giving handouts to the freeloaders ect. All the usual stuff. Two Toyotas and a Lexus in the driveway, IPhone and all the stuff, along with three kids, two in high school and one in college. Then he lost his job as a biotech engineer when his company moved its research to India about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. His wife became ill and lost her job. First his family lost their health care, then he couldn't pay the tuition for his daughter to stay in college, then his unemployment ran out. The daughter got a job at 7-11 and the high school kids cut lawns and shoveled snow last winter and did whatever they could to make a little money. When I came home from the cottage last week their house was empty. A neighbor told me that they were evicted and all of their belongings were put on the curb. They were going to try to live in their cars until they could find somewhere to live. It serves them right, they got what they asked for the lazy freeloaders! Next time they may be more careful of what they wish for. What a guy you are...

It's meant to be a sad story, but I don't think you got it.
It looks good to some of you to cut these entitlement programs for all of the "freeloaders" out there. I read it over and over on these threads. They are called lazy freeloaders who don't want to work and want to live on government entitlement programs. The fact is, most are not freeloaders, they are hard workers who have fallen on hard times like a neighbor or friend. They are also the mentally handicapped who cannot hold a job and have had the funding cut from the programs that sustained them. It sounds great to pay nothing to help our fellow citizens and keep that money. Then you may fall on hard times or become sick, or have a sick family member, or develop a chronic illness and have your benefits cancelled because of a pre existing condition. How many of you have diabetes, heart disease, cold, cancer, a disabling accident, a child with autism, or some other chronic illness. How do you pay for your insurance? You may qualify for Medicare after your home and all of your assets are gone and a two year waiting period is up, but then again, you may not. A childhood friend of mine died of pneumonia because he had no insurance. By the time he was sick enough for the hospital to admit him, (no longer stable so they could no longer refuse care) they couldn't save him. I have seen so much of this dealing with people for 20 years. It is sickening how we treat our most vulnerable citizens, and it will get worse if more programs are cut.
And here stands Mitt, establishing Naom Capitol in the Caymen Islands to avoid paying his share of the taxes, Swiss bank accounts, well, one at least, less than 15% tax for the years he released, and he paid no taxes for at least several years before that. I wish he had to sit down with a family who was just forced out of their house to live in their car with no medical care, but I doubt he would care. Like some here, he would probably say "why does that homeless family own a Lexus. Even though it is old and they now call it home.

This government crap plan you speak of.....   what exactly are you talking about?



For the record, my USAA insurance is pretty good.

OverMyHead wrote: Obama says today said Ryan is a good guy, articulate, and Obama fundamentally disagrees with Ryan's policy's. Ryan is racking up the big endorsements already.

Wait, didn't Ryan's plan get tossed long ago?   P2P, never made it very far, and nobody is talking about it now, well almost nobody.

ononewheel wrote:

2.6 trillion if it were true is still half of Obamas deficit. Sounds like a bargain. Another endorsement from the left .

Mitt understands that the government "creates" jobs by getting out of the way.

Here are some Obama quotes. I will cut the deficit in half, I will close Gitmo, I will reach across the isle., i will have the most transparent administration......

BuffaloBFN wrote: Obama's fundraiser in Chicago was $51/plate as opposed to 35k and the room was half full. Already Romney Ryan have drawn over 10 thousand to 2 separate events...lookin bad for you bedwetters.

I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Better Bedwetters of America!
Did I pee on your rug?
No, Woo peed on my rug, man.
Sincerely,
The Dig Boy.

Seth, The cliff is in 2024 when medicare goes broke. The earlier it is fixed the lesser the impact of the fix. Republicans want to make the cliff a tolerable hill. The democrat plan of sticking their heads in the sand and spending like there is no 2024 will create far worse of an impact. By the way Ryans plan does not effect anyone currently over 55. I am tired of democrats acting like 5 year olds who had their candy taken away and say its not fair. Time to grow up and face reality. We cannot afford what we are spending. With Ryan we now have a real choice. I liked the way he was able to articulate conservative values today. We have not seen that in a long time. This just became an interesting election!

Ryan's plan turns medicare into a voucher program.   Privatization reeks of corruption and 700 billion, will seems like small potatoes. Funny how you toss the 700 billion in cuts out there, when Ryans plan crap cans the whole program.

Don't worry democrats faced this problem before. Republicans have perfected the way they run for office, and that is taking the worst part about their campaign, and flipping it to the democrats, hence the 700 billion comment. Swiftboat much? I think Obama has seen this coming.


I think the glamor and glitz of Ryan is catching you off guard, and giving the conservatives something to look forward too.   That is until the nation gets another grasp of the "Path to Prosperity", remember conservatives denounced that plan long ago, and in full force. It was not a small dismissal, it was a flat out, NO.

Whatever Romeny owns Ryan budget now.   When the honeymoon passes, and it will, he is going to have some very tough answers to give.


Screw that I am pissed Ryan and Romney are able to use the USS Wisconsin for campaigning.   How did that happen?



I still think you have a point about spending, I'd just wish you would acknowledge the revenue part as well, just like you would if you were budgeting your household. Tax the crap out of the rich, maybe then they will shut up, quit whining and make some more money in new and innovative ways. Now, they have no reason to, they have all the money, consume more, profit more, and still pay less than you and I do.

Still doesn't address the fact you pay more in taxes than the rich do.


I'll give you the tax fraud facts you posted. ( I haven't checked them, and won't in all honesty) I'll admit, I am sure there is tax fraud happening, but still doesn't account for the guy like you and me who are getting stuck with the burden of paying the bills while the rich get a free pass because they have created this illusion of creating all the jobs and the poor cannot afford to pay anymore.

* I don't pay any income taxes because poker is not taxable at this point, but I have paid my price, however my wife does pay her fair share.

Tax fraud in the example you posted is wrong, so why can you not admit someone paying far less than you who can afford to pay more doesn't? Why is it ok under the Ryan tax plan for Romneys taxes to fall to .82% ok, while it makes yours increase ok?

It seems like you are inferring the refund fraud you spoke of is all the democrats or liberals. My money is on that not being the case. Besides, refunds are not revenue and your example only compounds the revenue problem we have, as well as a spending problem. Should we toss the IRS because there is fraud. Don't answer that, I already know what you will say.   That is like saying you should be ran out of business because you screwed up a floor job.


Keep throwing the Obama name out there, I don't own the corporatist anymore than you do, you must not have understood my position from the start. I see many faults in him, but do think he is the lesser of the evils at this point.   Give me a progressive to vote for and I'd forget who Obama is really quick.

BuffaloBFN wrote: +1 and the name calling means they got nuthin left.

Well BFN, I assume you have nothin' left after the bedwetter comment?

Nice way to leave man.





I'd still buy you a few beers before you gave me a dime for that golden toilet. You being a right wing wacko falls near the bottom on the list of what I care about when boats, skiing, footing, boarding,etc are involved, you are a human after all. Let's just agree to never give each other a pull should we ever end up at a reunion.

ononewheel wrote: I'll give you the tax fraud facts you posted. ( I haven't checked them, and won't in all honesty)

This is why you should keep your mouth shut!