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SN206 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-25-2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Status: Offline Points: 2339 |
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2 ten pound bags of ice + 48 twelve ounce beers in a ice chest works well. Just saying.
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SN206 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-25-2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Status: Offline Points: 2339 |
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...or was that 72 beers? I love pilot testing!
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...those who have fallen and those who will.
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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OKAY!!!
I just got off the phone with Steve at LSM Engineering. I asked Steve about a righty cam for a Chrysler 440. After he stopped laughing, he explained that the minimum order for a righty cam is three. So I will pay for...THREE...even if I only need ONE. The cost is $2,000.00(USD). If I can find TWO more that want a righty hyd roller cam for a Chrysler RB big block, we can split the $2K and it comes out to $666.66(USD) each. That's.....$666.66(USD). Anybody want a roller cam for their 440? Spread the word!!! |
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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I bet you could sell each for a grand then have yours free. would it fit any other bb mopars?
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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oldcuda ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-22-2010 Status: Offline Points: 474 |
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My wallet is pretty thin trying to finish BBC RH build but I would like to have a RH Chrysler big block roller on shelf for future build.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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Interesting! They never mentioned minimum quantities to me. Maybe they figured the market for RH roller SBF's and BBC's is big enough to hold onto some residual stock? No one else must be building RH Chryslers anymore, ha.
Did he say that all 3 specialty cams had to be the same? Or could the 3 cam minimum be a mix and match of different brands and engines? |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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They will fit any B/RB motor. 361/383/413/426/440. Excluding 426 Hemi.
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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I am not trying to get anything out of it, I'm just not going to eat $1,333.32 for two cam blanks. Steve said mine would be ground to spec, the other two could be hyd roller blanks. Zach says they will fit any B/RB block except for the 426 Hemi (It's SPECIAL ![]() |
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1974 Southwind 20
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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Does Joe run a Wedge or a Hemi? |
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1974 Southwind 20
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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Just started a new thread for the Hyd Roller Cams, guys...just FYI
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1974 Southwind 20
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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A thought just occurred to me...I am going to need a co-pilot to monitor gauges and the GPS so I can confirm that my SW will kick Joe and Tim's butt!!!
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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Let me know your money schedule, brother. I'll keep you on the list. ![]() |
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1974 Southwind 20
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hotboat ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-28-2009 Location: Conn Lake Pa Status: Offline Points: 814 |
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Just line em up, saves all the fancy gadgets ![]() |
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Brian
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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i might jump into that line up I wonder how i would fare
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Peter, if my orange boat is running by then I will jump in as well!
Oh what prop are you running on your Skylark? |
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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its wrapped for the winter and i forget but will look for you soon
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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That's fine thanks. That thing probably wont get in the water until mid summer. The barn isnt heated so I doubt we will work on it until it warms up a bit. It will be good to know a starting point. What are you turning wot?
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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12x15 OJ Peter?
Tony, youve got so much to learn... you need a half way decent hand held GPS that captures top speed. ![]() |
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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I think so Tim I think i was probably turning 53 or 5400?? not sustainable though he he
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Dangggggg Peter haha. I am shooting for 4800-5000. The Chebbies do like to turn some more RPM. I did not balance this motor and I selected a camshaft that should make peak power around 5000 rpm's but I will see what she likes when its actually moving under it's own power.
It's a .030 over 350 with Vortec heads a 3 angle valve job and flat top pistons. The cam is in the 260-270 advertised duration area and .450ish lift (cam card is at home). Clevite 77 bearings throughout. Summit dual plane aluminum intake with 600 Marine Holley. Pcm Manifolds are the plan. Put it together with budget being the main driving factor. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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Which motorbox you have in the Skylark, Zach? I wouldnt think that the PCM pyramids on a 350 would fit under the swoopy gelcoat box. I know they just squeak under when installed on a 302 (351w is a no-go).
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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A 78 Sn box :(. Original was gone and we picked that one up for less than 80 bucks. It's getting orange vinyl and cream piping on the edges. Same with the rest of the interior. the side pods and hull sides got cream vinyl.
Have a set of Glenwood logs but they are to wide for the box. What are your thoughts on the cam spec and RPM range Timmy? |
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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I was referring to having someone monitor systems while I have my eyes outside the cockpit watching the water. From my flying experience, things happen mighty fast close to the ground at high speeds...sometimes you don't even see what you hit, you just hear a "THUMP" and go "Oh Shi...take mushrooms!" |
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Tonali_III ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-30-2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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Thanks, Tim. Perhaps you could ride along and be my instructor? ![]() After all, I am trainable. ![]() I have some high speed experience...does 120MPH rotation speeds in a twin engine Beech Baron count? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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Wow, Im surprised that the glenwoods wont fit under that box... its fairly wide- CC used it over all 350/351w's through '82. Those Glenwoods must be a little oddball? If you really wanted to use them, you could widen the box... had to do this on the BFN (we raised it as well). Its not a big deal if youre covering it with vinyl. I dont know jack about small block Chevies, I cant comment on the cam specs. It seems on the small side for a similar cubic inch Ford (351w) but I think bowties tend to use smaller cams? Probably due to better flowing factory heads? |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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I know. My dad did all the measurments and I might try to fit them under it while he isn't looking ;).Had I had my way the motor would have been in the boat 2 years ago. Dad and I usually disagree in the barn which makes for some interesting conversation!!! ha. The motor is on a stand so we could just screw em on the motor and drop the box over it.
With the lack of go fast parts and balancing I didn't want to put something together that would spin much over 5000 if at all. Also when I started the build with budget in mind I was limited to that lift or lower because factory non vortec heads require the valve guide bosses to be machined down to run higher lift or the or the retainers will run into the bosses/guides. I happened across this set of vortec heads from a 160 hour boat. (I lied I forgot I didn't do a valve job because I pulled them off a SBC hop up I did for a friend in a Baja). Picked up 10 mph still banging the rev limiter with a 25 pitch prop ;). |
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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my edlebrocks just barely fit but with the look they have I would do anything to make them if they didnt .
Zach mine is just a stock 5.7 merc with an alum intake and marine carb D.U.I ignition. I am sure Your conversion will out perform mine . these are little boats with some real bad tendencies , if i were doing another one I would build it for holeshots and 1/8 mile blasts and nothing else even at that once its up to top end range be very careful |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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Peter, Im not sure if we ever figured out why your boat behaved so badly at the limit... too bad we only crossed paths briefly in NH (NE '11). No doubt some of those hulls run more planted than others, which can lead to some scary stuff. Not all of them do it, though- Ive driven a few of Reids good for 56-57, and while theyre a blast for sure, didnt do anything dangerous.
By "stock Merc 5.7" does that mean ~260hp? Or 300hp? Those Eddies are nice looking manifolds, and you fit them under the narrower glass motorbox, so my guess is Zach should be able to fit his Glenwoods. |
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peter1234 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: February-03-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2756 |
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Tim it was the 300 so maybe it is a bit hotter than stock but it could be less with the injection gone? I really believe it is the hook in the hull if i wasnt going to finally really push to sell i would grind it out of it . if i cant get what i want i will try it .
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Peter, I've listened to all your previous warnings believe me me haha. I figure with vortec heads good intake and that cam I should be in the 320-340 hp range. Close to a stock Apex performance. Limiting factor being the small thru hull exhausts(not sure how much that hurts). I hope it behaves nicely like Reids boats. High 50's potential? maybe knocking at 60??? Maybe the small hull does not like the driver on the left and the prop spinning left?
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