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    Posted: April-29-2008 at 11:28pm
I recently purchased a 93 Sport, which I've been working on here and there. One of my projects is to try to refinish/repaint the trailer because it's rusting in a bunch of spots. I'd like to try to do this myself without paying to have it sandblasted and powdercoated. Fortunately, I work for a power tool company so I have a ton of tools and access to all the accessories I could ever need. I got a bunch of wire brushes to grind the rust off. My plan was to wire brush the entire trailer to remove all paint, paint on rust killer and preventer, then paint it with Rustoleum. Would this suffice?

Any tips for trailer refinishing? I've never done it before, so I want to make sure I do it right. Should someone like Midwest CC have the Sport Nautique decals to replace the one's I'll have to remove? Here's a pic of my trailer, just for reference.
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Matt, I just refinished one this winter and I could't imagine grinding and sanding by hand. You should be able to find someone to sandblast it for less than $400 and it's well worth it, no matter how hard you work at it you'll never get all the rust out by hand.

I went back with 2 part epoxy primer and urethane top coat. Maybe a little overkill but it was a lot of work and I didn't want to do it again.

Your method would work but I don't think it will last very long. If you're going to keep the boat for a while I would go all the way.

A wiring harness is very cheap so just rip the old one out and go back in new with heat shrink connectors. And one thing I recommend is to check the bushings on the spring hangers, mine were worn right through and had started grinding down the spring bolts.

I think you probably have carpeted wood running boards which will probably be soft. At the very least replace with new plywood coated/sealed with some resin before recarpeting.

You'll also need to replace the bunks as I doubt they'll come off in one piece, it's easier to grind the old bolts off. I used carraige bolts when replacing my bunks so I could wrap the bunks with carpet before putting them back on, gives the carpeting a more finished look than bolting the bunks on and stapling the carpet after.

I guess I should just warn you that as simple as this sounds it will be time consuming to do it right.
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Alan's right. You will have a heck of a time grinding all the paint off and you will never be able to get all the rust out of the pits and craters. I had my entire trailer sand blasted and powder coated for $535.00. My surge break resavoir was empty and I found my break lines rusted through. I had new electric brakes with a break away kit installed,a new wiring harness and the wheel bearings repacked for another $525.00. Worth every penny! All the work was done around Fort Wayne Indiana. Good luck!
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Oh, by the way, try to save your wooden bunks. Not easy to duplicate and install. If you are patient there will be a new product on the market in about 6 months. Bunkaps is in negotiations with Correct Craft and is planning on producing plastic rails on all their new trailers and for the old trailers. Simply remove the old wooden bunkrails and the new Bunkaps will fit on the trailer frame. Drill a few SS screws in and you're done. Also, get rid of the stupid carpet on the inside of the fenders and steps. I went to Lowes and bought 12" plastic deck board and had the wood on the inside of the fenders Rhino lined.
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Matt, Stick with Alan's recommendations and you won't go wrong. I'm not a big fan of powder coating. The adhesion to the metal sucks and any small defect will allow water moisture under it and it will fail. Looks good at first!! The only reason the powder is so popular is the VOC restrictions the EPA has placed on wet paint.

Have you ever had a tool with a plastic coating on the handle that slips off? Not the same plasic as powder but the same adhesion problem!


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when putting your lights back onto the trailer after painting, don't forget to grind off the paint where the lights mount and ground. an ungrounded trailer light will do crazy things.
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Not sure if he had a bad experience but both liquid and powder coatings can do a great job if the coatings are properly applied. I would agree that there are some advantages to paint but the adhesion to metal does not suck when properly applied.
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Originally posted by bill1 bill1 wrote:

when putting your lights back onto the trailer after painting, don't forget to grind off the paint where the lights mount and ground. an ungrounded trailer light will do crazy things.


Bill is correct that 99% of trailer lighting problems are ground related but don't grind off the paint! It's just a spot where rust will develop. Run a ground wire to each light and to the main harness at the tongue. Use "sta-cons" ring terminals under the lights mounting/grounding stud. Don't forget the dielectric grease!


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Originally posted by aokcaldwell aokcaldwell wrote:

Not sure if he had a bad experience but both liquid and powder coatings can do a great job if the coatings are properly applied. I would agree that there are some advantages to paint but the adhesion to metal does not suck when properly applied.


Adam, I deal with powder coating on a daily basis and I will say it again that the adhesion of powder coating sucks when compared to wet paint.


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Hey Pete,
Can you paint galvanized trailers?? I found a boat I really liked once but it had that ugly grey galvanized trailer under it (Like Alan's 81'). I heard you can paint them after they've aged. Is that right??

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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Hey Pete,
Can you paint galvanized trailers?? I found a boat I really liked once but it had that ugly grey galvanized trailer under it (Like Alan's 81'). I heard you can paint them after they've aged. Is that right??

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Dave, If you ever do end up with a galv. trailer, all you need is the proper primer. It's a etching type that will work on the galvanized. I however wouldn't go into the Ace hardware and ask the "helpfull hardware man" for it!! There are some decent DTM's (direct to metal) that claim to be good too. Take a walk over to the big Grainger and ask to talk with the expert on the Rust-Oleum line they carry.


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I'll inspect my trailer routinally and make sure any stone bruises are covered with paint. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Also, I was told that the powder coat on the springs may crack off when they flex. True or not?

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Dave, If you ever do end up with a galv. trailer, all you need is the proper primer. It's a etching type that will work on the galvanized. I however wouldn't go into the Ace hardware and ask the "helpfull hardware man" for it!! There are some decent DTM's (direct to metal) that claim to be good too. Take a walk over to the big Grainger and ask to talk with the expert on the Rust-Oleum line they carry.


Good to know.. Those trailers are great from the corrosion sense, but are awefully ugly under a nice CC...
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Well crap. I was planning to do the same thing as the original poster to my trailer. Take the carpet off, re-do the steps, and sorta brush the rust spots off with a wire brush and hit it with some rustoleum. I don't really care enough about the trailer to invest time and money into it- the boat was expensive enough! Now I feel like I should have it done right, but what a waste of money.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Well crap. I was planning to do the same thing as the original poster to my trailer. Take the carpet off, re-do the steps, and sorta brush the rust spots off with a wire brush and hit it with some rustoleum. I don't really care enough about the trailer to invest time and money into it- the boat was expensive enough! Now I feel like I should have it done right, but what a waste of money.


Joel, Maintenance is one thing and a total refurb is another. I think I'd rather see you put the rust in check as opposed to letting it attack your entire trailer. For spot repairs go for it.

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I just finished painting/restoring my 45 year old #2? trailer. I cleaned, sanded and wire brushed all of the loose rust and dirt and painted(spray gun)with Rustoleum primer and paint. Then I replaced (made) new bunks, lights, wiring and a new axle and hubs due to the odd bearing seals. Powder coating would be the ideal solution but if the metal is prepped coccectly the paint will last a long time.
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Thanks for all of the advice. The more I look at my trailer the more I realize that I could probably get away with just wire brushing and painting the spots that really need it instead of hitting the entire trailer. At this point, I hate to spend alot of money on a 15 year old trailer if I can get away with cosmetic maintenance on my own. Does that seem more logical? Honestly, the only really bad parts of the trailer are the parts to the right and left of the tire which have the flat carpet on top. Not sure the technical name. Basically the parts that get submerged when I launch the boat. Lets hear thoughts on that?
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I do know one thing, the carpet will cause some serious rust to the frame. Bad design by Ramlin and will continue to be until the new rubber Bunkaps are available. I replaced my carpeted covered wood steps with plastic deck wood. (9" wide planks) I also replaced the carpet on the inside of the fenders but did not make contact with the fenders. I did the same for the bunk rails. My trailer was extremely bad so I went the whole 9 yards. As for yours, if it's only in a few spots, sand that rust down, properly prime it and paint it with some high performance Rust-Oleum enamel.
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