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Randy_in_Ohio 
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 Topic: Extra Screws...Posted: February-19-2010 at 8:57pm |
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I had these removed from my left leg Tuesday. They had been causing some pain and swelling in my leg for the past couple months. Hopefully I will feel like walking again soon.
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Posted: February-19-2010 at 9:06pm |
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I hope it makes a big differance for ya.
I've got 5 screws and a plate in my rt. foot. I can feel the big screw in my heel, the doc "could" remove it - but crap it aint that bad - yet. The 4 pins that were in my toes are being made into a peice of jewelry by a freind. |
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Posted: February-19-2010 at 10:44pm |
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man i thought i was screwed before
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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eric lavine
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Posted: February-19-2010 at 10:48pm |
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self tapers too
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Posted: February-19-2010 at 11:39pm |
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I can't imagine those causing any pain and swelling!
Hope you're back on your feet soon. |
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Absolutely amazes me when I watch these surgury shows on TV and the doctors have the cordless drill and sawzall out, hammers, chisels working away like he's building a birdhouse with his kids on the back porch. The technology is certainly amazing but to be able to focus on the task and forget that there's a human on the end of that hammer is totally amazing to me.
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Looking at that stuff gives me the heebie jeebies. It's got to feel good getting that stuff out of you.
I had a room mate that broke his neck in a car crash. They had him in a halo with those self taping screws into his head. He'd go to the doctor and they would tighten them up with a torque wrench. He said they made a squeak inside his head when they turned them. |
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Posted: February-20-2010 at 12:48pm |
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Randy, Looks like Eric has his eye on those screws! Maybe he's thinking he could save some money and use them for when the docs do the brain surgery on him the next time. The existing screws are loose!!! |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: February-20-2010 at 3:27pm |
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Pretty amazing what they can do these days...
The shinny long ones are hollow. you can see the hollow center in this pic. They told me they use wires to guide the screws into where they need to be. 
They told me the screws have done their job and arn't really needed anymore since the bone has grown back, they usually leave the hardware in unless it causes problems. I still have 9 screws and 2 rods in my leg, and a rod and some screws in my shoulder... and some screws and plates in my jaw... Hopefully none of it will cause any problems soon |
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eric lavine
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Posted: February-20-2010 at 9:09pm |
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500.00 a piece maybe?
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Why all the hardware Randy? Did I miss something? Did you recently have a bad accident? Last I seen you, at GL, you looked pretty good to me..well except for sleeping with eric that is.
Pete; how would they ever find something to work on for that brain surgury? john just kidding eric. |
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Posted: February-22-2010 at 9:47am |
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Randy looks like I missed something as well?
Sleeping with Eric I get it you had to chew your arm off next morning to get away and this is how they reattached it! 
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: February-22-2010 at 9:38pm |
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In 2002 I fell asleep at the wheel on my way home from taking classes in Akron, I was thrown out of my 3/4ton GMC which rolled over four times after taking out a couple telephone poles. I'm lucky to be alive... and even more fortunate that I have both legs and can walk. The doctors did a pretty amazing job putting me back together. I haven't had much trouble until recently when apparently some of the screws had started to back out and rub against tissue in my ankle causing pain and swelling. So they went in and took out some of the screws. Hopefully I will be getting around a lot better soon.
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geezz..bad accident..
buckle up next time I guess..but after rolling you never know if it could have saved you or not... |
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 6:21pm |
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the rod as you call it is actually a IM nail (inter modulary nail) it goes through the so called hollow section of the bone and the screw's are called canulated screws and depending where it's installed it will be a cortical or concelous screw you'll notice the difference by the pitch of the thread. The area on the ends of the bone near the joints are soft and spongee on the inside and use a concelous screw course pitch, the center section of the bone is much denser and a cortical screw is used which is a finer pitched thread, your lucky the screw head usually will break off before they ever back out. Usually they never take that stuff out in older folks, on kids it's almost always removed.
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 6:23pm |
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Wow Randy. You are lucky to be around... Guess your guardian angel earned some very big wings up there.
Edit: Chris, great explanation. Yet again, I learned something new today! |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 7:23pm |
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Chris, the Dr did refer to the rods as "nails" when I talked to him, kinda threw me off... I said "what nails?" He explained that is what they call the rods in the bone... I still call them rods... Anyway, I just learned a lot from your post. How do you know all this stuff??
From the looks of the screw heads I think your right, I am lucky they didn't break when they removed them! Maybe he used a little PB blaster or something! |
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 7:30pm |
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wonder the same..or he design it? LOL |
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 8:19pm |
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Actually I have designed simular components for a different company but we never designed anything with a big old nasty looking head like those lag screws he used on you. He used the cheap stuff too, that is why they are made from stainless or cobolt chrome, titanium is the way to go with a spherical head they have a lower profile head and usually don't cause any pain later on down the road. I don't think those are Depuy's or Zimmer's products either both are the leaders in the trauma field and implant market as well. The dual diameter threads like what is on the larger screw are usuually used with a special plate that has threaded holes in it or a fancy bushing that is threaded. Hope you don't have many more issues with them but if I was you I would bank on it unfortunatly. During my time working for Depuy trauma and extremites I did several screw lines, external fixation appliancies and IM nail's and all the instruments and jigs that go with them. |
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Posted: February-23-2010 at 10:13pm |
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Figures, they slipped me cheap parts and charged me full price!
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 9:10am |
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Randy with those lag bolts backing out I would bet you have rotted stringers for sure.
That must have been one big accident hope things work out well for you in the future. Chris you amaze me at times with your knowledge. Great to have you back around you were missed. |
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 9:39am |
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Same here.
Chris, Very interesting. Thank's for sharing your knowledge. |
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 10:00am |
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good thing you were in that GMC, you could of been killed in anything else
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 11:51am |
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Yes, great to have you back with us Chris.
Actually Eric I was thrown out of the GMC because I didn't have my seatbelt on since the damn thing didn't latch! They told me that if I would have had my seatbelt on and not been thrown out I would have probably been killed for sure. I always wore my seatbelt before I had got that truck and had been meaning to fix the seatbelt but never got around to it. I wear my seatbelt today... you only get lucky like that once! |
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and since everyone missed my spelling errors.
Cannulated and Cancellous also the better bone screws on the market have a spherical tip as well not a pointy tip like what was used and the only reason is comfort and they are self tapping as well. so you have plates, screws, nails as implants, pins and k-wires are used for external fixation, meaning they actually stick out of the body. |
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 1:27pm |
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sht, good thing you didnt get hit by one of the flying beer bottles
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My wife had SCFE when she was a teenager and had lots of screws or pins or nails in her hips. She has them at home somewhere, I will have to dig them out and look at them. 4 years ago she had a ceramic on ceramic hip put in the left side. I will see if I can fine the mfg. Chris, didn't you say you worked in the joint replacement field at one point? I thought I remembered something about that.
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The only implant I worked on was a shoulder application all the other stuff was Trauma related. The company "Depuy Orthopeadics" does make hip and knee implants and I did watch several tapes on the procedures to implant the appliances did had nothing to do with there actual design. When I first started our group was called Depuy Ace and we where part of J&J's Orthopeadics group in Warsaw, IN they later merged us with the extremities group and change the name to Depuy Trauma and Extremities, which basicly added the shoulder group into ours and some other pig intestine stuff too. The other two groups where hips and then a knee group, about the time I left the company they where working on CAS or Computer Assisted Surgery as a seperate business unit.
I bit they started with a captured Hip screw which would have been a Trauma device and moved on from there to the full implant. But I would say just plates and screws and no nails and then to a full implant or parcial implant where the stem or socket would have been replaced. |
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Posted: February-24-2010 at 3:03pm |
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To know how to fix broken bones you first have to know how to smash them right?
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Oh, I get it. 
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