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NautiBrophy
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Posted: June-01-2010 at 2:49pm |
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I am looking for a mechanic in the Milwaukee area that would be able to help me w/ this problem:
Alright so ran my 99 air nautique this weekend and ran great for a while. Then went to puts around the lake and it died. Wouldn't start up for about 20-30 mins. Then ran fine again. Did it again. Then Saturday it was a little hotter outside and ran fine. It sat for a while. Ran it hard and it died at high RPM's. Sat for 20-30 mins and started up again. Did this again also. Ran a computer scan on it first time it said 22 122 22 and that was after pulling a bunch of wires and trying to start it. Cleared the codes. Ran it until it died and ran the code scanner again and came back w/ nothing. I've read on the forum about bad MAP sensors. So I picked one up and I picked up a fuel pressure tester. Checked the fuel pressure right away. Turned the key on the on position (not starting). No fuel pressure. Again... nothing. Started it up and it jumped up to about 32. Shut it down and turned the key to the on position (not starting) and fuel pressure rose to about 39. Ran it until it died and then checked the fuel pressure. No fuel pressure. Waited about 20-30 minutes and then fuel pressure came back started up and ran. Unplugged the connection to the low pressure fuel pump and it started. Unplugged the connection to the high pressure fuel pump and it didn't start. My question is could the MAP sensor be tripping this? Or would it be some fuel pump relay? Or the high pressure fuel pump? Or???? Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you for your time. |
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horkn
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Lauderdale lakes marina is now the only CC dealer I know of in the area. The one I got my boat from appears to have stopped selling CC's a couple years back.
I have a feeling that if you went on to planetnautiue.com and asked this question, that you would get more response. These guys are more of the newer tech efi guys and this is more of a classic/ carbed site. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here, but for some of these electrical issues you might be better off trying there. |
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RainDog
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Matt,
While I don't have any insight into your specific problem, I can offer this. Mojo Marine, which was part of Lauderdale, recently merged with Summerset Marine. Both were off HWY 16 near HWY C in Nashotah. Mojo was a Nautique dealer so now Summerset is a Nautique dealer. You could call and talk to Dan-o. He pretty much ran Mojo and might be able to help. If you location is IA, why the Mke inquiry? |
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NautiBrophy
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Bought the boat in Green Bay and my parents live in the MKE area. Thanks for the info I will look into it!
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horkn
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We sure have had some craziness in CC dealers in the Milwaukee area in the past few years.
Excel in Sussex used to be the only dealer around this area. I bought my boat from them. They used to sell moombas and CC's. Then they dropped moomba, and apparently went out of business or simply stopped selling boats at all. They sure don't sell CC's any more. it's been tough times for any boat dealer as of the last few years. If you go to CC's site, the only place that shows up for dealers in SE Wi is Mojo Marine. It says nothing about Somerset Marine. |
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eric lavine
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A MAP sensor is what it says, a sensor, it sends info to the computer and the computer deciphers what needs to be done. KOEO, key on engine off, your fuel pressure should maintain and come up when starting. the fuel pump supplies flow and there should be some type of regulator in the system to maintain fuel pressure. I personally dont think the MAP sensor will cure this problem and its more of a fuel pump problem or relay. the fuel pump is an On/Off and is not regulated by the computer. the relay may get a signal from the computer to turn on or off.
what were the meanings of the codes you pulled? as with cars when you energize the key you will hear the fuel pump kick on and then start, that sound is the system pressurizing and then turning off, but will maintain line pressure for 10 or so minutes until it bleeds off |
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NautiBrophy
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Thanks horkn. Have you ever taken your boat to Mojo or heard any feedback from them?
11 11 means there's nothing that the computer is picking up. I agree it has to do with the fuel pump or something w/ the relay. Thanks Eric. |
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horkn
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No, ever since I bought my boat I have worked on my boat on my own. But then again mine's old tech carbureted.
Your boat's motor is just like any of the ford efi v8's I have had over the years in cars. It actually has the same ford efi system, except that there is no oxygen sensor in the boats, due to the wet exhaust. The fuel pump turns on (primes) as soon as you turn the key from off to the run position. If it's not turning the pump on, something electrically isn't working right. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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I vote that you keep your comments towards others on this site to YOURSELF.We got along just fine before you found us, why not go over to that other site and dazzle them with your lack of KNOWLEDGE .........I am not impressed 400 posts later......... |
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79SNbrady
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is the fuel pumps kicking on when there is no fuel pressure? if the pumps keep dieing, hard wire the fuel pumps and see if they constantly stay on. If the pumps stay on and dont die hard wired then it could be a relay on the way out. If it dies hard wired then a fuel pump is on the way out. My guess is the pick ups have trash and keep clogging it. Have you replaced the fuel filter yet? Dealing with Hondas and other EFI equipped vehicles and with a touch experience with carbs makes me think its trash. But your issue sounds like trash clogging the pick up in the tank and or getting disturbed in the filter and clogging it.
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davidg
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Steve; Interesting stuff! So does Somerset still have their facility, and Mojo have their facility right across the street from each other on 16, or have they merged into one facility? I take it they no longer handle MC?? My brother-in-law lives right around the corner from them down on Ice House Bay, so I get up there from time to time. Somerset also had a facility down in Delavan that was also an MC dealer (just like their other facility in Nashotah). However, the last time I drove by, it is now Gage Marine. I think they still had the MC line though. Lots of changes. |
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RainDog
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Somerset will be the main sales area while the old Mojo will be repair and detail area.
As far as remaining a MC dealer, I don't know if they can/will do both or will drop one. Based on a indirect comment, I think Nautique would trump MC, but I was on 'that' side of the street at the time. I ordered an impeller when they were separate dealerships then picked it up on week later and they merged. Also unclear is how Lauderdale fits into the equation. Did Lauderdale buy Sommerset or did Sommerset buy Lauderdale and Mojo or just Mojo? |
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horkn
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Rain dog, all the CC dealership stuff down here is very confusing.
Also, when excel was the CC dealer in Sussex, that was close enough to mke that you could call it mke. Nashota is half way to Madison, well for us northern mke people. Maybe when the boat market rebounds some dealer will emerge around here. CC is really missing out by not having any dealer in this area. I looked at mojo's website, and it only says they carry CC, moomba and supra. Nothing about MC. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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