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    Posted: January-03-2011 at 9:58pm
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Got a couple questions for ya. My 96' Nautique has the standard PCM 351, model number PLDPRR12PP, carbed, with the 1:23 tranny. When I changed my oil during winterization, I put Mobil 1 10w-30 synthetic in it. Now Have looked at my manual and found they reccomend a 40w for my engine (manual has PL&RD model and PL&RP model, which one do I have?). I hope that this is not going to be a huge issue, and would hate to waste that   6$/qt. oil. Am I going to be alright with this and what oils do you reccomend? Secondly, what type of tranny oil do you guys suggest? Thanks for the help
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Levin - Assuming your '96 is a flat tappet cam, you might want to bite the bullet & replace the Mobi1.    Several guys have had problems with synthetic ruining their cam.    Maybe you can capture it & use it in your car.    We pretty much voted in Valvoline VR1 20-50W as the oil of choice in the 351W.

For the tranny, check to see if it has brown motor oil or red ATF. Replace with whatever is in it, as converting to ATF takes some flushing. ATF to use is Dexron III. Not sure what weight of motor oil, should say in the manual.

Good luck, let us know what you end up doing! Been a few weeks since we discussed oil.
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thanks for the help,

the manual just says a 40 weight oil, I am open to any suggestion, and will go with what is reccomended. Is the 50 weight make much difference from the 40. Will it retard the engine at all being heavier? I am not going to run it anytime soon since she's winterized. I'll keep you guys informed in spring when i bring her back to life. As far as the tranny goes, I am assuming, hook up to fake a lake, pull prop, engage tranny and let idle for a bit to warm up the fluid before sucking out?

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Do not enguage the trans while out of water even with the prop off. The issue is your cutlass bearings in your strut can become too hot. I draw my transfluid out with a turkey baster while the trans is old each fall. Warm would be better.

You will find that folks use VR1 and Shell Rotella. I ran straight weight 40 VR1 for two years and now have 20-50W VR1. You need the zink for the flat tappet cam. If your motor has that cam.

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Thanks for the input, good call on the strut bearings, didnt think about that. Learning new things every time i am logged in. any suggestions on where to search for what cam I do have using the model and serial numbers, or do I just change the oil in spring and run with the 20-50W VR1 no matter what cam I have?

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or, remove the 4 bolts at the coupling,run the trans, change the trans oil and then do an alignment.
also Rotella has also been voted as a good oil too for the engine. chances are you do have a flat tappet cam.
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thanks fellas, appreciate the input
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pennzoil or really any decent oil will work. some guys are here try to to get scientific and are out to prove they know whats best. as long you change it every 40-50 hrs, or at the end of the season you will be fine.
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Originally posted by thatdude596 thatdude596 wrote:

pennzoil or really any decent oil will work. some guys are here try to to get scientific and are out to prove they know whats best. .
Sounds like expensive advice there Dude. If you want to run cheap oil in your motor, then do so. But to spout your lack of understanding the need for ZDDP in a flat tappet cam to another CCFan could very well cost him much more than an oil change.
Cam lobe wipe out can result w/incorrect lubes,do a little research on Flat Tappett Cams and their needs to live a long life.Share useful and accurate info of dont post at all......Boat dr
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BOAT DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS YOU CAN SEE IM A NEWBIE ALSO JUST BOUGHT MY FIRST INBOARD I HAVE A SKI NAUTIQUE THE TITLE SAYS "76" BUT THE GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM SAYS "77" ?????????????? HOW CAN I TELL......... OH AND IT HAS A 351W IM GOING TO RUN VALVOLINE 40W IN IT BUT HOW MANY QUARTS I KNOW I COULD JUST FILL IT UP AND CHECK THE DIPSTICK BUT ID LIKE SOME SOILID INFO ALSO IT NEEDS A LITTLE WOODWORK I LIVE IN FLORIDA ANY SUGGESTIONS ON A COMPANY TO DO THIS
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351W takes 5 qts with filter. FYI - some of the engine oil dipsticks are not calibrated - my '89's is inaccurate. (had to chose words carefully on that one!)

If you want 40W, consider Shell Rotella - inexpensive & well proven.
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THANK YOU SIR ILL DEF LOOK INTO THE SHELL BRAND ANY THOUGHTS ON TYPE OF FILTER IM RUNNING A K&N NOW
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Originally posted by sweet77 sweet77 wrote:

ANY THOUGHTS ON TYPE OF FILTER IM RUNNING A K&N NOW


Here's just about all you'll ever need to know about oil filters
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Originally posted by sweet77 sweet77 wrote:

THANK YOU SIR ILL DEF LOOK INTO THE SHELL BRAND ANY THOUGHTS ON TYPE OF FILTER IM RUNNING A K&N NOW


Sweet77, did you buy that boat out of Tennessee?
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A lot of the guys on this site use the Motorcraft. I also have one on right now, but I also used the PCM filters the last two years. I have a 80 Model.

If you use Fram, just do not talk about it. Trust me on this one.

I am not sure what year it started, but the serial number will be stamped on the transom. Top right hand side right below the run rail. The last two digits will be your year. My 80 is stamped into or modeled into the fiberglass.

You have a great looking boat.

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GARY S THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ON THE FILTERS IT WAS A GREAT HELP I THINK IM GOING TO USE EITHER A MOBIL 1 OR A MOTORCRAFT........81 NAUTIQUE NO SIR I DID NOT IT CAME FROM HILLIARD FLORIDA IT IS A TWO OWNER BOAT THE ORIGINAL OWNER HAD IT WHEN I WAS A KID AND HIS SON AND I USED TO PLAY IN IT THEN HE SOLD IT TO ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND HE OWNED IT FOR 7 YEARS AND NOW I OWN IT SO ITS STAYED JUST ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY..........DONALD MY BOAT IS OFFICIALLY A      "76" ITS ON THE TITILE AND THE BACK OF THE BOAT THANKS FOR THE KNOWLEDGE THANKS FOR LOOKING
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Sweet, Halston?
Please turn your caps lock off. It not only makes the posts hard to read but in normal computer communication terms it means you are yelling to get your point across.

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Napa Gold or Wix are a couple other good filters that rated very good too. Just stay away from the Fram and you'll be OK.


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Originally posted by sweet77 sweet77 wrote:

GARY S THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ON THE FILTERS IT WAS A GREAT HELP I THINK IM GOING TO USE EITHER A MOBIL 1 OR A MOTORCRAFT........81 NAUTIQUE NO SIR I DID NOT IT CAME FROM HILLIARD FLORIDA IT IS A TWO OWNER BOAT THE ORIGINAL OWNER HAD IT WHEN I WAS A KID AND HIS SON AND I USED TO PLAY IN IT THEN HE SOLD IT TO ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND HE OWNED IT FOR 7 YEARS AND NOW I OWN IT SO ITS STAYED JUST ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY..........DONALD MY BOAT IS OFFICIALLY A      "76" ITS ON THE TITILE AND THE BACK OF THE BOAT THANKS FOR THE KNOWLEDGE THANKS FOR LOOKING


Well that owner story is amost right... Brad sold me that boat out of Georgia about 5 years ago. Titled in in Wisconsin... It's a 76' for sure.. Hopefully the boat has had new stringers put in it since I sold it back to him 3 years ago. I put a ton of money in that "soggy boat".... Still looks nice, unless that's an old picture.. Hope it gives you years of enjoyment.. Taught my kids how to ski and board off that oldy moldy...

For you reunion goers, this was the famous boat that brought Billy and 79' together to work on a major starting issue the boat had.... I think it was in this boat they shared their first kiss... Hahaha


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Moj,

Soon as I saw that pic thought that was your old 76'.
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Yep that was the SOB that didn't start the second reunion... Starter fried... Once it was replaced on that Monday, she ran great till I got rid of it for the 96'Snob....
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Well, thats a bit of info thats hard to swallow......who would be a good person to put wood in it
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however that is a photo i took what would be the value on that boat dont be afraid to hurt my feelings either i want to know if my "BUDDY" screwed me or not
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value varies depending on the situation. If you're happy with the boat then I wouldn't even worry about it unless you paid something like 15k lol

Edit- I passed on a soggy mustang this fall for 1,800. To the seller it was a great running boat but to me it was a basketcase.
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So I paid 5 for it 5 new tubes ropes and new wake board rope and about 10 fairly new life jackets
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Originally posted by sweet77 sweet77 wrote:

who would be a good person to put wood in it

Yourself!! Seriously, plenty here have done it. Some with no glass background. The jobs turned out better than some of the so called "pro" jobs we've seen. There's some great threads from start to finish on the jobs done.

BTW, paying a pro to do it may run upwards of 14K!!


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Correct craft in Orlando said worst case 3000$ who would pay 14000 for new floor in a boat????? I'm not a wood man myself but I hear you can get it out and fiberglass it so there's no more wood in it ........SNOB what kind of $$$ did you buy and sell it for if you don't want to post this personal info please shoot me an email brad said he couldn't find the title and had to get a new one I'm feelin a little like I got shafted!!!!!
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Originally posted by sweet77 sweet77 wrote:

Correct craft in Orlando said worst case 3000$ who would pay 14000 for new floor in a boat????? I'm not a wood man myself but I hear you can get it out and fiberglass it so there's no more wood in it.

I suggest you start doing some reading here on CCfan. 3K for a floor and not stringers!!!!! Ether that or you talked to someone at CC Orlando that was smoking something!!
Dave (mojo) had a friend of mine quote a stringer/floor job........He obviously decided to sell the boat!!!

Members here are putting in 3 to 4K for materials only. Besides reading up on all the stringer threads here, you may want to do some reading on woodworking. Seriously, as mentioned, some have done the job with no woodworking experience and simple hand tools.


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The more reading I do the more overwhelmed I get thanks for all the info fold but I'm gunna go at least one summer on the floor
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I'm gunna go at least one summer on the floor

Halston,
Just make sure you do a alignment on the drive line
and then keep a eye on it. I'd say every 10 to 15 hours of run time would be good. You don't want to blow the trans and end up sending it to Eric for a rebuild. His pricing is good but still I'm sure you don't need the added expence.


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